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					<title><![CDATA[midi controllers]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>laotze</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hi,<br />
I&#8217;m thinking about adding another midi controller to my setup, but just wanted to make sure&#8230; My MacBook, and a program such as Max, would be able to recognize two different midi controllers at once, wouldn&#8217;t it?  I will use the Evolution UC-33 for knobs and faders and the M Audio O2 for its knobs and keyboard.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: midi controllers]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Jonathan Hallstrom</dc:creator>

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						<p>If you&#8217;re connecting your controllers through a midi interface you can <br />
have as many controllers as there are inputs on your interface. (You can <br />
check your your interface ports using Max&#8217;s &#8220;Midi Setup&#8221; menu item.)   <br />
If both of your controllers are USB controllers, they will each appear <br />
as an interface in the AudioMidi setup application and will be available <br />
as input/output ports in Max.  A note of caution: Some manufacturer&#8217;s <br />
USB controllers and/or interfaces won&#8217;t work properly (or at all) <br />
through a USB hub and have to be hooked directly to one of your <br />
computer&#8217;s USB ports (I know from frustrating experience that most of <br />
MOTU&#8217;s interfaces are this way!)</p>
<p>Jay Bodley wrote:<br />
> Hi,<br />
> I&#8217;m thinking about adding another midi controller to my setup, but just wanted to make sure&#8230; My MacBook, and a program such as Max, would be able to recognize two different midi controllers at once, wouldn&#8217;t it?  I will use the Evolution UC-33 for knobs and faders and the M Audio O2 for its knobs and keyboard.<br />
><br />
>   </p>
<p>&#8211; <br />
Jon Hallstrom<br />
Dept. of Music, Colby College<br />
5674 Mayflower Hill<br />
Waterville, ME  04901<br />
207-859-5674</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: midi controllers]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>DonK</dc:creator>

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						<p>If you want more sliders, knobs and buttons, I highly recommend the CM Labs Motormix.  I just picked one up, and between it and darwin gosse&#8217;s motormix object, it is awesome.  Automation works both ways too, to and from max.</p>
<p>I think they&#8217;re a little harder to find lately, but i got rid of my behringer surface after i got the motormix.</p>
<p>BTW, I never got my behringer bcf2000 working with my Motu828MK2, but the motormix works great for it, protools, performer, and definately Max and Radial.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re into soldering and hooking up your own pots, miditron looks like a nice customizable DIT interface waiting to happen.  <br />
Doepfer has some DIY nice controller stuff here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.doepfer.de/home_e.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.doepfer.de/home_e.htm</a></p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: midi controllers]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Adam Murray</dc:creator>

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						<p>I have used an m-audio oxygen 8 and evolution UC-33 together with Max and my MacBook Pro many times. Often with 1 or 2 other pieces of hardware hooked up too.</p>
<p>More recently I got a BCF2000 and since then I hardly ever user the UC-33 anymore. Being able to send messages from max to move sliders on the hardware is very useful for patches that store and recall presets&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, the point is multiple controllers works with Max no problem. Except maybe for the issue with MIDI hubs Jonathan mentioned (which has nothing to do with Max). The Oxygen 8 and the UC-33 work fine through my USB hub so I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll have any problems.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: midi controllers]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>DonK</dc:creator>

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						<p>Quote: Adam Murray wrote on Wed, 04 June 2008 20:46<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
> Anyway, the point is multiple controllers works with Max no problem. Except maybe for the issue with MIDI hubs Jonathan mentioned (which has nothing to do with Max). The Oxygen 8 and the UC-33 work fine through my USB hub so I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll have any problems.<br />
> </p>
<p>If you have problems with the USB, you can always connect the  BCF through midi too.  I was a big fan of the BCF until I got the motormix.  But then again, I could have at least twice as many BCFs for what I paid for the 1 motormix.</p>
<p>Speaking of controllers, anyone in LA want a free semi working M-Audio keystation-88?  It all works, but some of the keys are jimmy rigged inside (thus it&#8217;s free or trade for something cool and small, that may be semi working, that&#8217;s collecting dust at your studio).  :)</p>
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