MIDI effect output to ALL channels, possible?!
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May 30, 2012 at 1:44pm
MIDI effect output to ALL channels, possible?!Hey Guys, I have a M4L device where I wanna send MIDI notes OUT of the device, and do feed them back to live in order to use the MIDI map function of Live. So I guess Live ignores any MIDI channel information in M4L. Any solution or another option to send more then 128 MIDI triggers from a single M4L device on a single MIDI out?? Cheers! |
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May 30, 2012 at 2:35pm
Hi If things are not too time-critical, you could try this: format your MIDI events as lists and then prefix them with your “channel number” e.g. [channel, pitch, duration, velocity]. Then use a global [send](no — in the send name)to pass the events to MIDI devices in other slots. Each of these “slave” devices could then [receive] all the event lists and [route] them according to its own index. e.g master sends 1 sec of middle C at velocity 96 to slave 3: [3 60 1000 96] => [send fred] slave 3 gets: [receive fred] => [route 3] => [60 1000 96] hope this helps richard |
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May 30, 2012 at 6:24pm
Thanks Richard, I had it in mind, but this means I must go out to the IAC port and back into live twice, which I guess will make the reaction slow, plus Ill have to have 17 channels open only for mapping some buttons from my controller (OSC based). Is there maybe a way to use ableton API in M4L to send massages directly into its MIDI inputs?!? In that case I could overtake the MIDI channel out completely and also the virtual IAC feedback…. |
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May 30, 2012 at 7:36pm
On Mac you can use Leigh Hunt’s externals to send multichannel MIDI from M4L. http://web.mac.com/leighhunt/iWeb/Site/downloads.html Of course, for MIDI mapping you still need the virtual IAC feedback. But instead you could use the Live API to control Live parameters directly from OSC input. http://cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages/m4l-ref/m4l_live_object_model.html |
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May 30, 2012 at 10:41pm
broc I owe you one this external really saved me! exactly what I was looking for! btw regarding the API, is there a way to map things on-the-fly? like the midi map learn? cause if not and I have to program all the mapping in advance then its no good using in a custom OSC controller mapping device. I know there is map option in the API tools for sending control audio signals, but can one do it for solo/mute/clip launching etc… ??? couldnt find it myself…. but if not… I can work it out in midi (even that i made my own controller to get rid of midi….) |
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May 31, 2012 at 12:07am
AFAIK, mapping with API works basically for all parameters that can be mapped with MIDI. |
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May 31, 2012 at 9:27am
you missed my point. I meant if it is possible to use the ‘MIDI LEARN’ option, where the API in my M4L device recognize the pressed parameter. In the API tools they use [path live_set view selected_parameter] for the ‘Map’ option, which is what Im looking for, but its not working on everything like in the MIDI Map option, so no clip launching for example… anyway I looked on the API and couldn’t find an observer for clips position… which is a pity. Anyway thanks man you helped indeed! |
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Jun 3, 2012 at 6:09pm
Here’s how you observe which slot is currently being played. – Pasted Max Patch, click to expand. –
Copy all of the following text.Then, in Max, select New From Clipboard.
If you want to know which slot a given clip is you good look at it’s path, not sure if you can observe that though. If you want to work out what clip/track/device is selected I think you have to look at these properties in song.view (live_set view) http://cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages/m4l-ref/m4l_live_object_model.html#Song.View Hope that helps |
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