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midi in pluggos possible?

April 19, 2006 | 11:45 pm

hello folks. i’m interested in creating some pluggo plugins that take in
midi info, and was wondering if that is, or will ever be, possible. i know
pluggos can easily deal with audio in and out, but i’d like to create a
simple midi filter, similar to the ones available in ableton live. i want
to be able to filter out notes that are double hit too quickly, to adjust
the length of time the notes are held, and to adjust the amount of time
between notes, among other things. i know it is possible to do this within
a max/msp patch, but…

best future,
john


April 20, 2006 | 2:19 pm

bine~, when posting this kind of replies, maybe you could offer a
reference to the proper page as well? MaxMSP is a complex language
and the documentation quite extensive. Maybe we should adopt some of
the friendly attitude towards new users from the Csound list? On that
list the following is posted twice a month:

This is a periodic reminder. The Csound list welcomes posts from
people with ALL levels of skill, from the newest newbie to the most
serious hacker. The subject and tenor of the posts vary
dramatically depending on what the current questions are. Newbies are
sometimes afraid to post because they read discussions about the
incomprehensible deep inner workings, and all they want to know is how
to get a sound to come out of their iBook. Rest assured that your
question will be answered quickly, and (usually) in a helpful and
courteous manner. We’ve all been there. Please post.

John, check out PluggoDev35pdfin the Ploggo folder, in particular the
introduction and tutorial 8 and 9.

Best,
Trond


April 20, 2006 | 2:46 pm

i agree we need to be nice with newbies, since we’ve been newbies too.
but this is not the Csound list, the volume of messages on the max list
is crazy. the average on the csound list is about 5 messages a day, so
yeah they need to encourage people to post.. max is so well documented
that we should never see a post asking about a toggle or the select
object because it is really the basic logic behind max and proves that
the person has not even tried to find an answer on his own.. newbies
usually don’t piss me off, laziness does.

jm


April 20, 2006 | 3:22 pm

That’s OK. If you want a coffee break, here’s a recommendation for
some good music to go along with it:

http://www.johnhudak.net/article.php3?id_article=24

Piece,
Trond


April 20, 2006 | 6:33 pm

> bine~, when posting this kind of replies, maybe you could offer a
> reference to the proper page as well? MaxMSP is a complex language
> and the documentation quite extensive.

sorry to add one on top: the MAXMSP documents
definetly do not explain the guy how his VST
or AU host program works, no matter how often
he reads them.

even if you tell them "look into plugmidiin.help"
that is not a helpful reply and will only cause
new posts to the list of subject "why does
plug-midiin not work in LAP".

i could start giving a good example now by simply
answering his question but i am not in a mood tonight.

-110 @ yet another useless post.


April 22, 2006 | 11:35 pm

well, i’m not a noobie, but no offense taken.

just to let people know that at one point, not too long ago, it wasn’t
possible to pass midi in pluggos (especially within ableton live) without a
workaround.


April 23, 2006 | 3:10 am

yeah i vaguely remeber something about
runtime threading issues with either midi
in or out in live 4 which could be solved
by putting a [delay 0] in front of it
in _live 4.x.

well, the answer to your question remains
"it depends on the host".
last week there was a post in the pluggo forum
about something with midi which also do not
work in SX without a workaround.

_logic does not support [plugmidi ..]; but in
OS 9 / windows LAP you could use midiin instead
of plugmidiin.

no idea about LAP 7 with AU pluggo but my guess
is it is not supportet.
what you could do in LAP 7 AU though is using a
few [pp] s of range 0 127 and leave the rest to
LAP. :)

from what i remember the _live thing was fixed
and [plugmidin] and [plugmidiout] work in VST
pluggo in _live now.

i am not a noobie either, but i am currently
building my first standalone ever from a recent
live performance patch.
hell i _am a noobie! i am not even able to close
the program without a midi-warning on next launch!


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