Cycling 74 » Topic: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/feed Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:12:10 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.2.4 http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-46649 <![CDATA[Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-46649 Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:45:48 +0000 David Is there a specific reason, why Max Audio effects cannot receive Midi-Data? It seems to be possible for VST/AU Plug-Ins and as the integration (don´t know, if this is the right word, I´m not a native englisch speaker) of Max for Live into Ableton Live is so much more powerful and gives us so much more possibilities than the VST or AU standard, I find it strange that this is simply not possible at the moment.
I know about the works-around using send/receive or udpsend/udpreceive but the latency is problematic for timing-critical effects like stutter or gating.
So it would be great, if someone from cycling74 could give us some infos, if it is planned to make Max Audio Effects receive midi data in the future.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167814 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167814 Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:55:26 +0000 Dave Mollen +1

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167815 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167815 Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:13:41 +0000 AudioLemon If this is a wish list i’d love Multichannel support – to be able to convolve 2 channels of audio, and for sidechain fx, and for cross mod of channels, and to be able to create multichannel spatializers etc…

you may call me a dreamer…

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167816 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167816 Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:31:02 +0000 stringtapper As with a lot of the limitations of M4L, it’s rooted in Live’s own architecture and so for something like this to change I believe Live itself is going to have to change and a change like that will not happen before the next major release (Live 9).

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167817 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167817 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:48:12 +0000 stygmate +1

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167818 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167818 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:32:28 +0000 dadadrummer Have you tried Leigh Hunt’s lh_midiinout object? it worked for me :)

http://web.mac.com/leighhunt/iWeb/Site/downloads.html

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167819 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167819 Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:33:18 +0000 Crampe As dadadrummer said, lh_midiinout object is the solution. And it’s not a workaround, it just works great.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167820 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167820 Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:17:52 +0000 ShelLuser

Is there a specific reason, why Max Audio effects cannot receive Midi-Data? It seems to be possible for VST/AU Plug-Ins and as the integration (don´t know, if this is the right word, I´m not a native englisch speaker) of Max for Live into Ableton Live is so much more powerful and gives us so much more possibilities than the VST or AU standard, I find it strange that this is simply not possible at the moment.

Well, the reason is actually pretty obvious: a M4L device basically behaves and responds as if it were a regular Ableton Live device. And Live audio effects cannot receive incoming midi data. Just like Live midi effects will never be able to receive incoming audio data.

So there is a logic to all this, sort off. Because this statement obviously triggers: “Some Live audio effects can side-chain audio”. M4L can’t do that either so it seems (I’m still wondering / experimenting to see if you can’t get it to recognize extra inputs), but it looks to me as if those effects which can side chain audio have this feature specifically programmed in (as in: it doesn’t seem to follow Live standards).

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167821 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167821 Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:38:40 +0000 David Thank you all for your replies. I tried the lh_miniinout objects, but I got instant crashes. I will try again, when I have more time. Do they have a latency like the standard (udp)send/receive?

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167822 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167822 Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:12:11 +0000 ćwiek and what about max for live instrument?

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167823 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167823 Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:30:25 +0000 usertester005 +1

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167824 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167824 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:49:10 +0000 daltonh +1

Also, does anyone know of another place to find Leigh Hunt’s lh_midiinout object? The link is giving me an error.

Thanks

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167825 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167825 Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:48:01 +0000 leighhunt http://collapsingsound.net/downloads.html

regards,
Leigh

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167826 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167826 Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:28:24 +0000 DRKOSS Leigh – great object and mighty kind of you to share!!!

Question about parsing (in max 5) if i attach midiparse to your object – it doesn’t seem to parse data – is it a full midi message?

the reason i want to parse is because i want to separate by channel – maybe there is another way?

any ideas?

thanks – and again – very cool of you!

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167827 <![CDATA[Re: Midi Input for Max Audio Effects]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/midi-input-for-max-audio-effects/#post-167827 Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:53:09 +0000 DRKOSS Apologies – i should have tested more – all is need is ‘iter’

again – thanks!!

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