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					<title><![CDATA[msp external problems on Lion]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 14:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>emb</dc:creator>

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						<p>hello,</p>
<p>i built an MSP external for a friend back in 2010, and now it is apparently exhibiting bad behavior on max 6 / Lion (nasty clicks in audio.) originally built against the 5.1.6 SDK&#8230; not sure what&#8217;s changed.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t personally have Lion; i&#8217;m not a big mac user these days. wondering if anyone has any insight or could even (big favor i know) recompile the thing, which is here:</p>
<p><a href="https://github.com/catfact/poki/" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/catfact/poki/</a></p>
<p>?? many thanks!<br />
- ezra b</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: msp external problems on Lion]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Timothy Place</dc:creator>

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						<p>After a cursory glance at the code, it doesn&#8217;t seem to show anything obviously wrong.</p>
<p>There were problems we discovered with buffer~ access late in Max 5&#8242;s life cycle which we addressed in Max 6.  If you look at the appendix of the Max 6 SDK it documents how to update code for safer/easier/better access.</p>
<p>Additionally, to host Max 5 audio objects in Max 6 incurs additional CPU cost as the object has to be wrapped with a conversion layer.  Not sure if this extra overhead is exacerbating the problem.</p>
<p>Side note: you have a gensym() call at line 253 in your perform method.  Not sure you want an expensive call like this.  For a case like this it is recommended that you call gensym() somewhere else (e.g. in main()) and cache the t_symbol pointer it returns.  Then pass that cached symbol at line 253.</p>
<p>If you have a patcher that reliably produces the problem, I might be to take a look at it sometime&#8230;</p>
<p>best,<br />
  Tim</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: msp external problems on Lion]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>emb</dc:creator>

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						<p>thanks for the advice! i will do as you suggest in both cases. i missed the buffer-access appendix, was still looking at the preliminary sdk&#8230; oops</p>
<p>so would you foresee any obvious obstacles to compiling against / testing with max 6.0.4, from my aging and neglected os x partition &#8211; 10.5.x, xcode 3.4.x?</p>
<p>apparently the help patcher from github is sufficient to see the bad behavior in Lion.</p>
<p>thanks again! i appreciate the help<br />
-ezra b</p>
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