I’d like to play back 24-channels of audio from disk with all of the channels perfectly in synch. Using 24 single-channel wav files is preferable, but I can also format the audio as a single 24-channel wav file (I’ve been using Audacity to do this). The audio is 32-bit at 48 kHz so the 24-channel file works out at about 3 GB, for the 11-minute piece I’m currently working with.

So far I’ve been trying to do this in Max 5 with sfplay~ and I have two specific questions:

(1) Is it possible to guarantee that 24 single-channel sfplay~ objects will start exactly together?

(2) I get an error when trying to load the 3GB 24-channel file into a 24-channel sfplay~ object, but I have been able to load a shorter file of around 300MB. Any ideas what the problem might be here?

And a more general one: assuming it is possible to get 24-channel playback with long files to work, can I realistically hope to get it working with 64-channels?

Thanks for any help,

Aengus.

Aengus.

Also to go beyond the 4 GB (or 2 GB) file size limit we need Cycling to
support for the new file formats that uses 64-bit file offsets, like
Wav64, Riff64 or CAF.

I dont think there is any guarantee that multiple single channel files
will start in sync, so the groove~ method f.e mentions might be the way
to go. But question is if you have enough ram to read all the data into
buffers?

/J

jr.abstractions for MaxMSP – new version (2008-06-11)

http://www.sonicescape.net/maxmsp/

According the Max 4.6 reference that I happen to have on the computer I’m sitting at, the sfplay~ limit is 28 channels. In Max 5, it only complained when I asked for > 32, so maybe the max number of channels is 32 in Max 5.

The multichannel playback is for ambisonic rendering, so synchronization between the different channels is vital.

The groove~ method is fine and there is enough RAM in this instance, but it might be necessary to deal with longer files in the future. This is why I’m investigating the options.

When I asked about 64-channels, I knew it was beyond the current capabilities of sfplay~, but are there any 3rd party objects or VST plugins which might help? For instance, there is a built-in object in AudioMulch which does multi channel playback from disk, where you can just give it the name of a mono wav file for each channel and it plays them back in synch. I’m not sure what its max number of channels is, but something like that, which can do 64-channels would be great. (maxobjects.com has not revealed anything.)

Cheers,

Aengus.

Also i’m pretty sure u can have sample accurate playback looping / cueing.

Take a good look at the sub patchers in the sfplay~ helpfile, it’s all in there!

Cheers
Gary Lee Nelson
TIMARA Department
Oberlin College
http://www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

On Jun 13, 2008, at 10:11 AM, justin wrote:

>
> if i remember rightly (its been a while since i last did this), u
> can set the buffer size for sfplay~. This makes playing larger
> multi channel files less glitchy.
>
> Also i’m pretty sure u can have sample accurate playback looping /
> cueing.
>
> Take a good look at the sub patchers in the sfplay~ helpfile, it’s
> all in there!

Wondering if you ever got to the bottom of this…?

I’m trying to run long multi-channel files and running into the same problems.

http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=27088

Cheers,
Dave

whats my options?

syncing sfplay~s -http://www.cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=8656

http://www.cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=124#post-710