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multiple pattrstorages –> crash ?


f.e
January 23, 2007 | 3:56 pm

Hello,

i’ve spent a few hours desperatly trying to reload a big patch with an
error (not in the max window, in a windows XP one) : "MW WIN32
(something) … couldn’t get thread…".

I’ve cut all pattrstorage parts in a text editor and it loads again. I
had a main pattrstorage in my main patch, then a hidden one in a bpatcher…

Is this the real problem ?

f.e


f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|


January 23, 2007 | 4:05 pm

Sorry, f.e. – you know the drill. We need LOTS more information if
you want a real answer to this question.

jb

Am 23.01.2007 um 16:56 schrieb f.e:

> Is this the real problem ?



f.e
January 24, 2007 | 10:01 am

I know that, Jeremy, and i’m on my way to identify the problem. But,
meanwhile, i was wondering if there was a trivial problem around having
multiple pattrstorage…

Nevertheless, untill i send you the crashing patch, the problem seems to
occur with bpatchers and pattrstorage. All my patch is ok untill i add a
final bpatcher, however with no pattr objects inside…

f.e

f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|

Jeremy Bernstein wrote:
> Sorry, f.e. – you know the drill. We need LOTS more information if you
> want a real answer to this question.
>
> jb
>
> Am 23.01.2007 um 16:56 schrieb f.e:
>
>> Is this the real problem ?
>
>



f.e
January 24, 2007 | 11:20 am

Error message :

"MW WIN32 RUNTIME
Could not get thread local data"

I tried to nail the bug as close as i could. I can only reproduce it
with lp.scampf from Litter Power but it doesn’t mean it’s its fault !
The patch only crashes when my bpatcher called ‘fe.bp.quickpattr’ is
there. Otherwise, without adding this extra bpatcher, i could have dozen
(which i have) bpatchers with the lp.scampf mechanism inside, no problem.

I figure this is a matter of loadbangs and initialization stuff.

Anyway, the following patch DO crash on my Max/MSP 4.5.7 without Jitter,
with Windows XP pro SP2 (.NET framework 1.1 + 2.0, VS 8 installed,
cygwin too), so you may try it without lp.scampf in your search path before.

I have tried it on my laptop too (same config) and it crashes too.

It would be great if you could identify the problem. If it’s me, i’d
like to know it quick, in order for me to update my patches as fast as i
can because i need them tomorrow night. If it’s a lp.scampf’s specific
problem, well, i’ll ask to my best support center .-) If it’s a Max
problem, i’d really really appreciate a fix, even a dirty one.

cheers & good luck

f.e

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#P outlet 152 368 15 0;
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#P connect 3 0 4 0;
#P fasten 7 0 0 0 295 322 157 322;
#P connect 4 0 0 0;
#P connect 3 1 2 0;
#P fasten 6 0 2 0 252 278 328 278 328 167 252 167;
#P connect 2 0 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 1 7 0;
#P pop;
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#N vpatcher 15 55 1000 855;
#P origin -514 -352;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 10.;
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#P newex 247 245 53 9109514 t nopoll b;
#P newex 247 210 30 9109514 sel 0;
#P message 152 294 46 9109514 color 0;
#P newex 152 110 105 9109514 t b poll;
#P newex 247 178 66 9109514 mousestate;
#P inlet 152 90 15 0;
#P outlet 152 368 15 0;
#P connect 1 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 4 0;
#P fasten 7 0 0 0 295 322 157 322;
#P connect 4 0 0 0;
#P connect 3 1 2 0;
#P fasten 6 0 2 0 252 278 328 278 328 167 252 167;
#P connect 2 0 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 1 7 0;
#P pop;
#P hidden newobj 661 235 65 9109513 p mcolor 13 4;
#P message 169 75 14 9109513 9;
#B color 13;
#P message 14 75 24 9109513 0;
#P message 153 75 14 9109513 8;
#B color 13;
#P message 137 75 14 9109513 7;
#B color 13;
#P message 121 75 14 9109513 6;
#B color 13;
#P message 105 75 14 9109513 5;
#B color 13;
#P message 89 75 14 9109513 4;
#B color 13;
#P message 73 75 14 9109513 3;
#B color 13;
#P message 57 75 14 9109513 2;
#B color 13;
#P message 41 75 14 9109513 1;
#B color 13;
#N vpatcher 15 55 1000 855;
#P origin -514 -352;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 10.;
#P message 290 294 46 9109514 color 0;
#P newex 247 245 53 9109514 t nopoll b;
#P newex 247 210 30 9109514 sel 0;
#P message 152 294 46 9109514 color 0;
#P newex 152 110 105 9109514 t b poll;
#P newex 247 178 66 9109514 mousestate;
#P inlet 152 90 15 0;
#P outlet 152 368 15 0;
#P connect 1 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 4 0;
#P fasten 7 0 0 0 295 322 157 322;
#P connect 4 0 0 0;
#P connect 3 1 2 0;
#P fasten 6 0 2 0 252 278 328 278 328 167 252 167;
#P connect 2 0 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 1 7 0;
#P pop;
#P hidden newobj 661 212 65 9109513 p mcolor 13 4;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 10.;
#P user ubumenu 186 75 44 9109514 1 0 0 1;
#X setrgb 0 0 0 255 255 255 234 234 234 4 4 4 255 215 0 112 112 112;
#X add write;
#X prefix_set 0 0
0;
#X pattrmode 1;
#P user ubumenu 186 55 44 9109514 1 0 0 1;
#X setrgb 0 0 0 255 255 255 234 234 234 4 4 4 255 215 0 112 112 112;
#X add read;
#X prefix_set 0 0
0;
#X pattrmode 1;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#N vpatcher 15 55 615 455;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 10.;
#P newex 214 240 95 9109514 t b 0;
#P newex 146 98 53 9109514 loadbang;
#P newex 214 204 30 9109514 sel 0;
#P newex 214 179 29 9109514 gate;
#P outlet 299 304 15 0;
#P outlet 214 304 15 0;
#P inlet 214 64 15 0;
#P newex 214 98 65 9109514 route toggle;
#P message 214 273 47 9109514 toggle 0;
#P newex 233 150 66 9109514 mousestate;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 2 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 7 0;
#P connect 7 0 9 0;
#P connect 9 0 1 0;
#P connect 1 0 4 0;
#P fasten 8 0 0 0 151 136 238 136;
#P connect 0 0 6 1;
#P connect 9 1 5 0;
#P pop;
#P hidden newobj 765 98 81 9109513 p fe.ubutton write;
#N vpatcher 15 55 615 455;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 10.;
#P newex 214 240 95 9109514 t b 0;
#P newex 146 98 53 9109514 loadbang;
#P newex 214 204 30 9109514 sel 0;
#P newex 214 179 29 9109514 gate;
#P outlet 299 304 15 0;
#P outlet 214 304 15 0;
#P inlet 214 64 15 0;
#P newex 214 98 65 9109514 route toggle;
#P message 214 273 47 9109514 toggle 0;
#P newex 233 150 66 9109514 mousestate;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 2 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 7 0;
#P connect 7 0 9 0;
#P connect 9 0 1 0;
#P connect 1 0 4 0;
#P fasten 8 0 0 0 151 136 238 136;
#P connect 0 0 6 1;
#P connect 9 1 5 0;
#P pop;
#P hidden newobj 764 71 80 9109513 p fe.ubutton read;
#P user hint 14 115 230 133 "You can edit the name of the current preset
here" 1000 100 0 65535 65535 52428 9 139 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 15 55 184 71 "Recall presets 0 – 9 quiclky" 1000 100 0
65535 65535 52428 9 139 0 1 0 0 0;
#P user hint 14 37 230 53 "Current file" 1000 100 0 65535 65535 52428 9
139 0 1 0 0 0;
#P hidden connect 50 0 65 0;
#P hidden connect 67 0 65 0;
#P hidden connect 46 0 36 0;
#P hidden connect 26 0 16 0;
#P hidden connect 37 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 36 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 35 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 34 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 33 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 32 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 31 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 30 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 29 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 28 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 59 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 55 1 51 0;
#P hidden connect 47 1 51 0;
#P hidden connect 64 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 81 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 58 0 51 0;
#P hidden connect 75 0 60 0;
#P hidden connect 62 0 60 0;
#P hidden connect 62 1 61 0;
#P hidden connect 61 0 64 0;
#P hidden connect 45 0 28 0;
#P hidden connect 25 0 8 0;
#P hidden connect 51 0 61 1;
#P hidden connect 44 0 29 0;
#P hidden connect 24 0 9 0;
#P hidden connect 43 0 30 0;
#P hidden connect 23 0 10 0;
#P hidden connect 63 0 62 0;
#P hidden connect 61 0 83 0;
#P hidden connect 60 0 63 0;
#P hidden connect 61 0 64 1;
#P hidden connect 42 0 31 0;
#P hidden connect 22 0 11 0;
#P hidden connect 41 0 32 0;
#P hidden connect 21 0 12 0;
#P hidden connect 62 2 84 0;
#P hidden connect 40 0 33 0;
#P hidden connect 20 0 13 0;
#P hidden connect 62 2 64 2;
#P hidden connect 39 0 34 0;
#P hidden connect 19 0 14 0;
#P hidden connect 4 1 48 0;
#P hidden connect 3 1 48 0;
#P hidden connect 52 0 48 0;
#P hidden fasten 53 0 48 0 276 452 152 452;
#P hidden connect 83 0 48 0;
#P hidden connect 80 0 48 0;
#P hidden connect 38 0 35 0;
#P hidden connect 18 0 15 0;
#P hidden connect 27 0 37 0;
#P hidden connect 7 0 17 0;
#P hidden connect 84 0 83 1;
#P hidden connect 3 0 5 0;
#P hidden connect 4 0 6 0;
#P hidden connect 71 0 68 0;
#P hidden connect 70 0 52 0;
#P hidden connect 47 0 52 0;
#P hidden fasten 47 4 52 0 290 372 206 372;
#P hidden connect 69 0 52 0;
#P hidden connect 52 1 71 0;
#P hidden fasten 51 0 52 1 19 398 230 398;
#P hidden connect 8 0 47 0;
#P hidden connect 10 0 47 0;
#P hidden connect 12 0 47 0;
#P hidden connect 14 0 47 0;
#P hidden connect 17 0 47 0;
#P hidden connect 16 0 47 0;
#P hidden connect 9 0 47 0;
#P hidden connect 11 0 47 0;
#P hidden connect 13 0 47 0;
#P hidden connect 15 0 47 0;
#P hidden connect 71 1 47 0;
#P hidden connect 68 0 70 0;
#P hidden connect 47 2 59 0;
#P hidden connect 47 3 53 0;
#P hidden fasten 47 2 59 1 262 413 327 413;
#P hidden connect 66 0 67 0;
#P hidden fasten 47 3 53 1 276 372 378 372;
#P hidden fasten 47 2 59 2 262 413 386 413 392 413;
#P hidden connect 49 0 80 0;
#P hidden connect 79 0 49 0;
#P hidden connect 54 0 55 0;
#P hidden connect 80 1 55 0;
#P hidden connect 55 0 56 0;
#P hidden connect 56 2 57 0;
#P hidden connect 57 0 58 0;
#P hidden connect 49 1 50 0;
#P hidden connect 80 2 50 0;
#P hidden connect 49 2 85 0;
#P hidden connect 85 1 82 0;
#P hidden connect 82 0 81 0;
#P hidden connect 17 0 7 0;
#P hidden connect 15 0 18 0;
#P hidden connect 14 0 19 0;
#P hidden connect 13 0 20 0;
#P hidden connect 12 0 21 0;
#P hidden connect 11 0 22 0;
#P hidden connect 10 0 23 0;
#P hidden connect 9 0 24 0;
#P hidden connect 8 0 25 0;
#P hidden connect 16 0 26 0;
#P hidden fasten 82 0 81 1 640 137 693 137;
#P hidden connect 82 1 81 2;
#P hidden connect 5 2 3 0;
#P hidden connect 6 2 4 0;
#P hidden connect 37 0 27 0;
#P hidden connect 35 0 38 0;
#P hidden connect 34 0 39 0;
#P hidden connect 33 0 40 0;
#P hidden connect 32 0 41 0;
#P hidden connect 31 0 42 0;
#P hidden connect 30 0 43 0;
#P hidden connect 29 0 44 0;
#P hidden connect 28 0 45 0;
#P hidden connect 36 0 46 0;
#P pop;
#BP pop 0;
#P connect 3 1 5 0;
#P hidden connect 5 0 6 0;
#P fasten 5 1 4 0 487 292 392 292;
#P connect 6 0 4 5;
#P pop;

f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|

Jeremy Bernstein wrote:
> Sorry, f.e. – you know the drill. We need LOTS more information if you
> want a real answer to this question.
>
> jb
>
> Am 23.01.2007 um 16:56 schrieb f.e:
>
>> Is this the real problem ?
>
>


January 24, 2007 | 11:28 am

You mean, if you remove lp.scampf from the bpatcher, the crash goes
away?

jb

Am 24.01.2007 um 12:20 schrieb f.e:

> I can only reproduce it with lp.scampf from Litter Power but it
> doesn’t mean it’s its fault !


January 24, 2007 | 11:41 am



f.e
January 24, 2007 | 12:10 pm



f.e
January 24, 2007 | 12:32 pm

In other words, i don’t need the bug to be fixed in 24 hours, but i need
to understand the mechanism of the bug, in order to patch around it.

cheers

f.e

f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|

f.e wrote:
> yes
>
> f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
>> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
>> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|
>
>
> Jeremy Bernstein wrote:
>> You mean, if you remove lp.scampf from the bpatcher, the crash goes
>> away?
>>
>> jb
>>
>> Am 24.01.2007 um 12:20 schrieb f.e:
>>
>>> I can only reproduce it with lp.scampf from Litter Power but it
>>> doesn’t mean it’s its fault !
>>
>>
>


January 24, 2007 | 12:35 pm

Looking at your patch, the only error I get is "lp.scampf: No such
object". Sorry, I don’t have Litter Power.

Since you’ve told me offlist that the problem goes away without
lp.scampf, I am inclined to refer you to Peter Castine for the time
being. If you can make the patch crash without using any 3rd party
objects, I’d be more than happy to check the problem out again.

jb

Am 24.01.2007 um 13:10 schrieb f.e:

> No problem with the fixing schedule; this is not my point. There’s
> an unidentified problem here, for sure. Ok, it only affects me, so
> i’ll live with that if it’s what you mean. There’s a few more i
> live with : my refreshing screen problem doesn’t interrest a lot of
> people either, and i had to find the fact that missing the .NET
> framework 2.0 is a bad thing when using 3rd parties.
>
> Problem is not about lp.scampf, but about the way things are
> instanciated when pattrstorage is around. If you had tried my
> patch, you may have seen there’s only one pattrstorage around, and
> very few things. Getting rid of the ‘trigger b s" mechanism,
> putting the objects that could be recaled in the right order (float
> THEN ubumenu, means ubumenu set the curve type first, then the
> float tells the curve value) and using deferlow fixed the problem
> for the time beeing.


January 24, 2007 | 6:42 pm

I’m afraid I skipped over the beginning of the thread, but Vicki
piped up when she noticed the reference to a Litter Power object in a
message.

f.e: Could you please send me the relevant patches, problem
description, etc. off-list and I’ll take a look. Also please copy me
on the version numbers listed for scampf (either from the Max window
or the Version tab of the Properties window). I know there were some
hiccoughs with the early Windows versions of scapmi & Co., but they
were mostly to do with dynamic assistance.

jb: scampf is part of the Starter Pack, which don’t cost nothin’
‘ceptin fer a bit of bandwidth to download it. I realize it’s not
part of the factory Max/MSP distribution, but there are a few handy
items in there.

Best — P.

On 24-Jan-2007, at 13:35, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:

> Looking at your patch, the only error I get is "lp.scampf: No such
> object". Sorry, I don’t have Litter Power.
>
> Since you’ve told me offlist that the problem goes away without
> lp.scampf, I am inclined to refer you to Peter Castine for the time
> being. If you can make the patch crash without using any 3rd party
> objects, I’d be more than happy to check the problem out again.

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