benjamin thigpen

Is there a way to have 2 independent pattrstorage objects operating 

at the same level of a patch? So, for instance: pattrstorage 1 

controls a function object and pattrstorage 2 controls all the other 

With the preset object, this would be a simple matter of using the 

"include" and "exclude" outlets. These exist also for the autopattr 

object. But not for pattrstorage: it sees all pattr-exposed objects. 

Is there some way to get 2 or more pattrstorage objects on the same 

patcher level to "share" the pattr-exposed objects - so that each 

pattrstorage sees and includes only a certain subset of these objects?

This seems like a very obvious thing to want to do, so I'm hoping 

this is a stupid question. Sometimes I have a bit of trouble getting 

The only workaround I can think of is to put part of the interface 

that I want to control separately (the function, in this case) at a 

separate patcher level (in a bpatcher, say) and use the "greedy 2" 

message to render it invisible to the other pattrstorage. This should 

work fine, but seems a little contorted...

Is there a way to have 2 independent pattrstorage objects operating  
at the same level of a patch? So, for instance: pattrstorage 1  
controls a function object and pattrstorage 2 controls all the other  
parameters.

With the preset object, this would be a simple matter of using the  
"include" and "exclude" outlets. These exist also for the autopattr  
object. But not for pattrstorage: it sees all pattr-exposed objects.  
Is there some way to get 2 or more pattrstorage objects on the same  
patcher level to "share" the pattr-exposed objects - so that each  
pattrstorage sees and includes only a certain subset of these objects?

This seems like a very obvious thing to want to do, so I'm hoping  
this is a stupid question. Sometimes I have a bit of trouble getting  
my head around the pattr logic...

The only workaround I can think of is to put part of the interface  
that I want to control separately (the function, in this case) at a  
separate patcher level (in a bpatcher, say) and use the "greedy 2"  
message to render it invisible to the other pattrstorage. This should  
work fine, but seems a little contorted...

multiple-pattrstorages-on-same-patcher-level

Am 28.11.2006 um 13:38 schrieb Benjamin Thigpen:

> Is there a way to have 2 independent pattrstorage objects operating 

> at the same level of a patch? So, for instance: pattrstorage 1 

> controls a function object and pattrstorage 2 controls all the 

Not at this time. For now, you'd have to separate some objects out 

into a subpatcher, as you described in your message.

> Is there a way to have 2 independent pattrstorage objects operating  
> at the same level of a patch? So, for instance: pattrstorage 1  
> controls a function object and pattrstorage 2 controls all the  
> other parameters.

Not at this time. For now, you'd have to separate some objects out  
into a subpatcher, as you described in your message.

Quote: Jeremy Bernstein wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 14:06

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> Not at this time. For now, you'd have to separate some objects out 

> into a subpatcher, as you described in your message.

This could be an interesting general question. Should the scope of an object be related to the 'physical' level in the patcher hierarchy? For example how should

be translated into a max patcher structure?

ps, why does this forum remove spaces from the start of a line?

Quote: Jeremy Bernstein wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 14:06
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> Not at this time. For now, you'd have to separate some objects out  
> into a subpatcher, as you described in your message.
>

This could be an interesting general question. Should the scope of an object be related to the 'physical' level in the patcher hierarchy? For example how should 

function assign(myVar) {
this.myVar = myVar;
}

ps, why does this forum remove spaces from the start of a line?


On 28 Nov 2006, at 14:06, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:

> Am 28.11.2006 um 13:38 schrieb Benjamin Thigpen:

>> Is there a way to have 2 independent pattrstorage objects 

>> operating at the same level of a patch? So, for instance: 

>> pattrstorage 1 controls a function object and pattrstorage 2 

Ok, thanks. Could you take this as a feature request? ? ? ?? ????

>
> Am 28.11.2006 um 13:38 schrieb Benjamin Thigpen:
>
>> Is there a way to have 2 independent pattrstorage objects  
>> operating at the same level of a patch? So, for instance:  
>> pattrstorage 1 controls a function object and pattrstorage 2  
>> controls all the other parameters.
>
> Not at this time. For now, you'd have to separate some objects out  
> into a subpatcher, as you described in your message.

Am 28.11.2006 um 15:48 schrieb Benjamin Thigpen:

> On 28 Nov 2006, at 14:06, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:

>> Am 28.11.2006 um 13:38 schrieb Benjamin Thigpen:

>>> Is there a way to have 2 independent pattrstorage objects 

>>> operating at the same level of a patch? So, for instance: 

>>> pattrstorage 1 controls a function object and pattrstorage 2 

>> Not at this time. For now, you'd have to separate some objects out 

>> into a subpatcher, as you described in your message.

> Ok, thanks. Could you take this as a feature request? ? ? ?? ????

> On 28 Nov 2006, at 14:06, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 28.11.2006 um 13:38 schrieb Benjamin Thigpen:
>>
>>> Is there a way to have 2 independent pattrstorage objects  
>>> operating at the same level of a patch? So, for instance:  
>>> pattrstorage 1 controls a function object and pattrstorage 2  
>>> controls all the other parameters.
>>
>> Not at this time. For now, you'd have to separate some objects out  
>> into a subpatcher, as you described in your message.
>
> Ok, thanks. Could you take this as a feature request? ? ? ?? ????


On 28 Nov 2006, at 15:56, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:

> Am 28.11.2006 um 15:48 schrieb Benjamin Thigpen:

>> On 28 Nov 2006, at 14:06, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:

>>> Am 28.11.2006 um 13:38 schrieb Benjamin Thigpen:

>>>> Is there a way to have 2 independent pattrstorage objects 

>>>> operating at the same level of a patch? So, for instance: 

>>>> pattrstorage 1 controls a function object and pattrstorage 2 

>>> Not at this time. For now, you'd have to separate some objects 

>>> out into a subpatcher, as you described in your message.

>> Ok, thanks. Could you take this as a feature request? ? ? ?? ????

> Sure.
>
> jb
>
> Am 28.11.2006 um 15:48 schrieb Benjamin Thigpen:
>
>> On 28 Nov 2006, at 14:06, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Am 28.11.2006 um 13:38 schrieb Benjamin Thigpen:
>>>
>>>> Is there a way to have 2 independent pattrstorage objects  
>>>> operating at the same level of a patch? So, for instance:  
>>>> pattrstorage 1 controls a function object and pattrstorage 2  
>>>> controls all the other parameters.
>>>
>>> Not at this time. For now, you'd have to separate some objects  
>>> out into a subpatcher, as you described in your message.
>>
>> Ok, thanks. Could you take this as a feature request? ? ? ?? ????
>


multiple pattrstorages on same patcher level