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					<title><![CDATA[My Granular patch: Dronerator!]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Christopher Carvalho</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hello All!</p>
<p>This is my first generative and/or granular patch,</p>
<p>a short demo can be viewed here: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpD5fHmluU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpD5fHmluU</a> (subsciptions welcome, i plan to make many MSP related videos)</p>
<p>As much as it is granular it can also be considered additive as the &#8216;grain&#8217; lengths can vary between 1ms and 10 seconds,</p>
<p>any feedback welcomed,</p>
<p>the second patch here is the patch contained in the poly~,</p>
<p>many thanks,</p>
<p>CC</p>
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<p>Grain Generator:</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: My Granular patch: Dronerator!]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/my-granular-patch-dronerator/#post-172982</link>
					<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Julien Bayle</dc:creator>

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						<p>clicking on the first message at the right of your first patch has just crashed my 5.1.2 max inside live 8.1.1<br />
I mean, max for live.</p>
<p>:-(</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: My Granular patch: Dronerator!]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/my-granular-patch-dronerator/#post-172983</link>
					<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Julien Bayle</dc:creator>

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						<p>all the same in max<br />
I guess I missed something</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: My Granular patch: Dronerator!]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/my-granular-patch-dronerator/#post-172984</link>
					<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Christopher Carvalho</dc:creator>

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						<p>don&#8217;t see why it should do that, especially that particular message,</p>
<p>i havn&#8217;t had any problems on any of the machines ive used it on,</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t use m4l, try opening it MaxMSP</p>
<p>let me know if it happens again,</p>
<p>cheers :-)</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: My Granular patch: Dronerator!]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/my-granular-patch-dronerator/#post-172985</link>
					<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Tim Lloyd</dc:creator>

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						<p>It works for me, sounds pretty cool too!</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: My Granular patch: Dronerator!]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/my-granular-patch-dronerator/#post-172986</link>
					<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Christopher Carvalho</dc:creator>

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						<p>thanks Tim, glad im not the only one to appreciate the noise lol</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: My Granular patch: Dronerator!]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/my-granular-patch-dronerator/#post-172987</link>
					<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Julien Bayle</dc:creator>

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						<p>I did&#8230;</p>
<p>i7 720QM<br />
windows7 64bit<br />
4Go RAM</p>
<p>my max and maxforlive/live configuration is very stable.</p>
<p>strange..<br />
(I want to listen this drone!)</p>
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					<dc:creator>Christopher Carvalho</dc:creator>

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						<p>yer very strange, the only thing that i can think of is that i made that on a Mac,</p>
<p>sorry for this inconvenience,</p>
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						<p>Christopher, I&#8217;m sure I made a mistake, but where ? :(</p>
<p>you pasted 2 patches.<br />
how do they go together?</p>
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						<p>save the main patch, then save the poly~ patch as graingen_curve2_001lite, into the same folder then close both patches, then open main patch&#8230;</p>
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						<p>the copy paste of the first one give me an error in the max window:<br />
poly~: no patcher graingen_curve2_001lite</p>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>this is strange, it worked for Tim, maybe he knows the solution?</p>
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						<p>Sounds like you need to have a read up on abstractions (Max tutorial 15).  Open the second patch CC posted and save it as graingen_curve2_001lite.  Then open the first patch, save it and re-open.  All this is doing is making sure that both patches are saved into the search path of MaxMSP, so that when you try to instantiate a patch as an abstraction or inside a poly~ Max can find the named patch for you.  Then you&#8217;ll probably have to reconnect the [targe $2, $3 ] message to the right inlet of poly~ and patch the output into gain~.  It *will* work if you do that.</p>
<p>Only thing I will say about the patch is that because of the way you&#8217;ve designed it, you&#8217;ll have 100 or 200 metros banging away at fast speeds all at the same time, which starts to make the patch respond quite slowly.  There are quite a few threads about clogging the schedular with huge amounts of timing-specific data and ways to avoid it.  </p>
<p>I wish we could still upload/attach zipped files to the forum, then we wouldn&#8217;t have to faff around with the saving/reopening etc&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>:)</p>
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						<p>thanks for the advice Tim, i think in future ill upload my patches somewhere and post a link,</p>
<p>lately i have been using phasor~ objects instead of metro for timing, which should remove that problem?</p>
<p>many thanks for your time,</p>
<p>CC</p>
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						<p>@ julien</p>
<p>the first patch is the main one, the second is the subpatch for the poly~ object. Save the second one to your HD and name it: graingen_curve2_001lite , then save the first main patch in the same location. Noodling with it right now.</p>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>I know about abstraction, but more about abstraction in data flow, I mean, not in MSP&#8230;</p>
<p>I never used poly~<br />
I just use objects quoted there:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.julienbayle.net/diy/protodeck/#m4L" rel="nofollow">http://www.julienbayle.net/diy/protodeck/#m4L</a></p>
<p>thanks!<br />
it works :)<br />
I like generator like that.<br />
I love metaphysical function from Reaktor.</p>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>cool im glad you got it to work, thanks for your time, i hope you enjoy it, plenty more like that to come,</p>
<p>watch this space.</p>
<p>CC</p>
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						<p>hi CC,</p>
<p>got it to work but it doesn&#8217;t sound anything like the one you posted on youtube. sounds like a fly wearing knights armour in a blender.</p>
<p>any suggestions? i just click everything on and voila?</p>
<p>daniel</p>
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