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Im working with a midi piano through nuendo3. Im looking to route my midi through nuendo to MSP (to create new sounds with) and back out to nuendo for recording.

1. Is there any way to do this without using rewire, like an alternative method or program?

2. My main problem with vst's is that you cant modify them during recording to change the sound dynamically, is MSP capable of doing this?

3. Is it possible to blend from one filter to another, like a fade out of the first filter to the fade in of the second, or some other seamless method?

3. Is making a filter patch more like writing an algorithm or putting a bunch of random building blocks together and seeing if they work?

Im working with a midi piano through nuendo3. Im looking to route my midi through nuendo to MSP (to create new sounds with) and back out to nuendo for recording.  

2. My main problem with vst's is that you cant modify them during recording to change the sound dynamically, is MSP capable of doing this? 

3. Is making a filter patch more like writing an algorithm or putting a bunch of random building blocks together and seeing if they work?


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If you use a mac, I know that you might be able to look into Pilot, it's a sound routing device that might help you to route sound from one program to another...

I can only answer your first question:
If you use a mac, I know that you might be able to look into Pilot, it's a sound routing device that might help you to route sound from one program to another...
Hope that helps, good luck.


I've already replied to your other thread, but now i know more about what you're trying to achieve, i'll try to help you out a bit.

Firstly which platform are you on, Windows, Mac, Linux?

I'll answer with the assumption you're on Windows, (as i only vaguely know Mac OS and it's available apps), so hopefully someone else can chip in with similar solutions for the Mac OS.

1) You need something like MIDI Yoke, it's the equivalent of "virtual" MIDI cables which internally connect two MIDI "devices", in the "virtual" world those two "devices" are actually applications such as Nuendo, Max/MSP, Logic, Ableton Live...or any application which sends or recieves MIDI.

2) I'm not sure if i get what you mean here because i've never had any trouble automating VSTs, but here's the perfect solution, (well kind of anyway, the [vst~] object can be a bit flakey sometimes):

https://cycling74.com/story/2005/5/3/15379/06443

Just go through tutorials 1-4 of the series.

3) If you mean like a crossfade, (such as on a DJ Mixer, or provided in Protools), then yes it is...you just need to think about it in exactly that way, ie as one amplifier's volume goes up, the other one's goes down proportionately. If you look at panning mechanisms you'll quickly find the solution.

4) It's a bit like both, although you really won't get far if you do literally use "random" objects, (random values to predefined objects can be fun though), so take the building blocks and rearrange them to what you want/need. There's plenty of filter objects supplied with MSP, and they've got extensive helpfiles, so just check out the objects, (and their helpfiles),in the "MSP Filters" section of the New Object dialogue pop up.

One final idea for you to transmit audio between applications , (or VST stacks to be more precise), as you requested in your other threadwould be Senderella. 

2) I'm not sure if i get what you mean here because i've never had any trouble automating VSTs, but here's the perfect solution, (well kind of anyway, the [vst~] object can be a bit flakey sometimes):
https://cycling74.com/story/2005/5/3/15379/06443
Just go through tutorials 1-4 of the series.

One final idea for you to transmit audio between applications , (or VST stacks to be more precise), as you requested in your other threadwould be Senderella. http://www.kvraudio.com/news/2685.html

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