stevedaniels@sympatic

netsendnetrecieve-crash

Just to make sure, are you using the netsend/netreceive objects that 

send control data, or the netsend~/netreceive~ objects that are used for 

sending multichannel audio over a network? I'm guessing the former since 

the signal objects are still alpha I believe and haven't been out for 

that long. Have you tried contacting Olaf Matthes regarding the crash? I 

am having similar problems with his commercial OggPro packag (i.e., I 

paid for it), but have not gotten much response in the way of a fix.

I download the netsend/receive control data objects and opened the help 

files, ran the tests, and didn't have any problems (data was just sent 

to localhost though). I'm using 4.5.6 on OS 10.4.5. Curious if you've 

tried the otudp object for OSX available here:

Wondering if that could be a potential substitute for you.

Just to make sure, are you using the netsend/netreceive objects that 
send control data, or the netsend~/netreceive~ objects that are used for 
sending multichannel audio over a network? I'm guessing the former since 
the signal objects are still alpha I believe and haven't been out for 
that long. Have you tried contacting Olaf Matthes regarding the crash? I 
am having similar problems with his commercial OggPro packag (i.e., I 
paid for it), but have not gotten much response in the way of a fix.

I download the netsend/receive control data objects and opened the help 
files, ran the tests, and didn't have any problems (data was just sent 
to localhost though). I'm using 4.5.6 on OS 10.4.5. Curious if you've 
tried the otudp object for OSX available here:

> Just to make sure, are you using the netsend/netreceive objects that 

> send control data, or the netsend~/netreceive~ objects that are used for 

> sending multichannel audio over a network? I'm guessing the former since 

> the signal objects are still alpha I believe and haven't been out for 

> that long. Have you tried contacting Olaf Matthes regarding the crash? I 

> am having similar problems with his commercial OggPro packag (i.e., I 

> paid for it), but have not gotten much response in the way of a fix.

No, your oggPro problem is a totally different beast because feedback 

loops never worked and he says that what he is trying to do used to work.

Steve, did you try to open the help patches that come with netsend / 

netreceive? Do they work or do they all crash? I once had a similar 

problem and later on found out that it was related to a loadbang that 

was used to establish several connections at a time.

> Hi Steve,
>
> Just to make sure, are you using the netsend/netreceive objects that 
> send control data, or the netsend~/netreceive~ objects that are used for 
> sending multichannel audio over a network? I'm guessing the former since 
> the signal objects are still alpha I believe and haven't been out for 
> that long. Have you tried contacting Olaf Matthes regarding the crash? I 
> am having similar problems with his commercial OggPro packag (i.e., I 
> paid for it), but have not gotten much response in the way of a fix.

No, your oggPro problem is a totally different beast because feedback 
loops never worked and he says that what he is trying to do used to work.

Steve, did you try to open the help patches that come with netsend / 
netreceive? Do they work or do they all crash? I once had a similar 
problem and later on found out that it was related to a loadbang that 
was used to establish several connections at a time.

Thanks for the reply -- I have tried opening the help and example patches

I found some other patches on other lists late last night -- they crash.

IF I open my patches with a text editor and remove the netsend or receive

lines and open the newly modified patch in MAX the patch opens (without the

NET objects and with the expected errors associated with connections going

to nowhere). The rest of the patch seems OK. No loadbangs in these

I have run these patches on OSx and Windows. I have run them successfully

between multiple institutions simultaneously and connected to PD. Up until

I can work with other 3rd party externals without problem -- it is just

I checked the console and appear to be throwing java errors when these

patches try to launch. I am trying to reinstall JAVA to see if something is

messed up on that end. Console message below!

Could recent JAVA updates be the cause of this or am I way off base?

As an aside -- PD still netsends (locally) and jit.send etc still sends and

Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app: An

unexpected Java error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:

Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app: An error

Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app:

/Users/sdaniels/Library/Logs/Java/JavaNativeCrash_pid351.cra sh.log

Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app: If this

error is reproducible, please report it with the following information:

Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app: 1. Provide

the steps to reproduce, a test case, and any relevant information

Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app: 2. The

corresponding JavaNativeCrash_pid.crash.log (Java state)

Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app: 3. The

corresponding .crash.log (native state; generated by CrashReporter)

Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app: File report

Feb 23 13:00:05 motion crashdump[353]: MaxMSP 4.5.app crashed

Feb 23 13:00:06 motion crashdump[353]: crash report written to:

/Users/sdaniels/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/MaxMSP 4.5.app.crash.log

Thanks for the reply -- I have tried opening the help and example patches
downloaded from your site.  They crash.

IF I open my patches with a text editor and remove the netsend or receive
lines and open the newly modified patch in MAX the patch opens (without the
NET objects and with the expected errors associated with connections going
to nowhere).  The rest of the patch seems OK.  No loadbangs in these
patches.

I have run these patches on OSx and Windows.  I have run them successfully
between multiple institutions simultaneously and connected to PD.  Up until
now run them without an error.

I can work with other 3rd party externals without problem -- it is just
these.  I am at a total loss.

I checked the console and appear to be throwing java errors when these
patches try to launch.  I am trying to reinstall JAVA to see if something is
messed up on that end.  Console message below!

As an aside -- PD still netsends (locally) and jit.send etc still sends and
receives (locally).

Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app: An
unexpected Java error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app: An error
report file has been written to:
Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app:
  /Users/sdaniels/Library/Logs/Java/JavaNativeCrash_pid351.cra sh.log
Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app: If this
error is reproducible, please report it with the following information:
Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app:   1. Provide
the steps to reproduce, a test case, and any relevant information
Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app:   2. The
corresponding JavaNativeCrash_pid.crash.log (Java state)
Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app:   3. The
corresponding .crash.log (native state; generated by CrashReporter)
Feb 23 13:00:04 motion /Applications/MaxMSP 4.5/MaxMSP 4.5.app: File report
at: http://bugreport.apple.com/
Feb 23 13:00:05 motion crashdump[353]: MaxMSP 4.5.app crashed
Feb 23 13:00:06 motion crashdump[353]: crash report written to:
/Users/sdaniels/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/MaxMSP 4.5.app.crash.log


> I checked the console and appear to be throwing java errors when these

I have seen this Java errors before with netsend / netreceive. But I 

Which OS X version are you running? Did you install any OS X updates 

> I checked the console and appear to be throwing java errors when these
> patches try to launch.

I have seen this Java errors before with netsend / netreceive. But I 
couldn't make any sense out of them...

Which OS X version are you running? Did you install any OS X updates 
recently?

I am back on my feet NETSEND seems ok again.-- following full unistall

instructions from cycling74 support and then reinstalling JAVA and

I am back on my feet NETSEND seems ok again.-- following full unistall
instructions from cycling74 support and then reinstalling JAVA and
MAX/Jitter has me running again.

Thanks -- I tried some of this along the way to my solution

netsend/netrecieve CRASH