new live objects and scripting name

Dec 18, 2009 at 12:03am

new live objects and scripting name

It seems the new live objects can’t ‘survive’ without the scripting name. I can delete it but every time I open again the patcher the default scripting name is there again.
Is there a reason for that? I would prefer to be able to delete it; it causes some minor issues in my configuration, e.g. they are always exposed to pattr system.

Thank you


osx 10.6.2
MaxMsp 5.1
Jitter 1.7

Dec 18, 2009 at 12:55am

In the Live ui object’s inspector, set parameter visibility to ‘hidden’.

all the best,

Dec 18, 2009 at 10:45pm

Thank you Ben


Dec 31, 2009 at 2:22pm

Maybe I’m missing something, but every time I open again the patcher, the scripting name (a default name) is there and visible to pattr, in spite of the ‘hidden’ setting.

All the best


Jan 11, 2010 at 7:02am

maybe I’m missing something too. ?
I’d also just like to exclude live objects from the autopattr system, same problem as matteo. edit: The seemingly unevitable scriptingname also appears in the clientwindow of the pattrstorage object, despite Hidden setting, of course..

Jan 13, 2010 at 5:21pm

why don’t you just exclude these objects from the pattr system with the second outlet of an autopattr ?

Jan 13, 2010 at 7:04pm

Because i usually do it the other way, which is not a good reason, but this method also seems to introduce more objects and patchcords to patchers which are hard to keep tidy anyways.. But thanks(!) that’s kind of a solution.
Still there should be a way..?

Jan 13, 2010 at 7:18pm

I’m using the “2th outlet technique”, too, even if I prefer the other way…

But I’d like to know if there’s a specific reason live.objects must always have a scripting name…


Jan 14, 2010 at 11:49am

I guess there is a reason with Live’s way of working…

But I just found this trick :
loadbang to message “varname” to your Live object
it opens your Live object with a blank scripting name

Dec 4, 2012 at 10:17am

I confirm Live objects are not hidden to pattrstorage when using the ‘hidden’ parameter (Max 6.0.8).
Strange behaviour.

Feb 1, 2014 at 2:15am

hello max pros,

is this bug is still alive ?
i am tying to delete the scripting name of a live.toggle object.

if i set the ‘hidden’ parameter, the scripting name disappear, but if i reload the patch, the scripting name is still there.

perhaps someone from cycling has a hint ?

excluding from the pattrstorage is not an option.

all the best,

Feb 1, 2014 at 5:22am

I think the ‘hidden’ attribute must be seen in the context of M4L as it ensures that the parameter value is not saved with the Live set. But you may not always want to exclude it automatically from pattrstorage which provides a different layer of preset management.


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