new to max msp, generative music advice

Feb 27, 2008 at 11:41pm

new to max msp, generative music advice

hi

i am new to this program and i have been introduced to it via the sonic art degree that i am currently studying at college. i am working my way through the tutorials and am getting my head around the basics and am slowly making progress.

we have to complete an assignment using max msp in a couple of months and need to make a patch and a soundpiece that was made using this patch.

i have an idea to make a patch that makes a generative music piece starting from a sample that i load into it that is continually effected in a variety of ways and recorded by max msp as a wav file

i have been loading a sample using replace and buffer, then i have tried to separate out different numbers from it using an external i found called fiddle. i have also experimented with the drunk object too, but not with much success so far

i think that i would like to do something like : use fiddle to generate different numbers based on the type of sample fed into it, then feed these numbers into other objects like drunk (are there others like drunk? i am slowly learning) and then feed the results back to the start of the chain to be effected again, hopefully forming a continually changing generative music piece.

sorry about the long (first) post but can anyone offer me any helpful advice to help mew complete this task? any examples of similar ideas? what problems am i likely to encounter? what objects would you use to achieve something like this?

many thanks in advance, i cant wait to get my head around this program properly

#36088
Feb 28, 2008 at 12:26am

#123571
Feb 28, 2008 at 1:49am

On Feb 27, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Chris Muir wrote:

> Though Max/MSP doesn’t encourage it much: First Design, Then Code.
> It’s much easier to implement something, if you’ve really thought
> about what it needs to do, and have a design in mind.

This is so important. AFTER I have conceived of an idea and narrowed
its scope sufficiently, I usually spend at least a week, and sometimes
two, with it on the backburner. Meaning, I don’t really even
consciously devote cycles to it, I just work on whatever else I have
going on but keep thinking about the problem in the back of my head in
the shower, driving, etc.

Usually when I finally sit down to start coding, this initial waiting
period its more than made up for in robust and clean implementation.

A lot of planning goes on in your head when you aren’t thinking about
it.

barry threw
Media Art and Technology

San Francisco, CA
Work: 857-544-3967
Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com
Web: http://www.barrythrew.com

#123572
Feb 28, 2008 at 2:30pm

#123573
Feb 29, 2008 at 5:52pm

many thanks for this advice everybody. it seems some flowcharts are the way to go for the moment. i am looking forward to the time when it all starts to slot into place

#123574
Apr 1, 2008 at 7:47pm

“A lot of planning goes on in your head when you aren’t thinking about
it.”

Is this also why you feel creative when you come back to music after being away for a while?

(Is it ok to bring up old theads?)

#123575

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