roger.carruthers

My wife is doing a theatre piece on our old friend

Netochka, and I've been charged with supplying some

visuals (my first post on the Jitter forum - I hope i

haven't blown it by mentioning her name ;-).

I've been Maxing for a few years but only just

started Jittering, so I doubt whether I'll have the

chops to do a great job in the given time scale, so

I'm looking for anything that anyone cares to share

that gives the flavour of her work - in particular,

anything created with nato, would be great.

In fact any info, links, videos, images, music etc.

that anyone cares to share would be hugely

appreciated. Luckily, i still have a few years worth

of old Mcgill list 'mails on an old machine to trawl

through, but I'd really like to see some actual

NN/nato video, if anyone has any to share.

As you would imagine, she's left a suitably obscure

trail; what little there is, even on the Internet

Archive, is curiously devoid of any actual artwork

(other than reams of ASCII art, of course).

I have managed to find a few little nato/maxlets, but

so far, I've not had much success trying to run them -

am I right in thinking that nato (runtime) wont run in

Classic, ie. that I'd have to boot into OS9 ? 

My only PPC machine is refusing to boot into OS9 atm,

so my only option is to reformat my laptop, which I'd

wildfrontear.co.uk) if you have anything to share,

My wife is doing a theatre piece on our old friend
Netochka, and I've been charged with supplying some
visuals (my first post on the Jitter forum - I hope i
haven't blown it by mentioning her name ;-).

 I've been Maxing for a few years but only just
started Jittering, so I doubt whether I'll have the
chops to do a great job in the given time scale, so
I'm looking for anything that anyone cares to share
that gives the flavour of her work - in particular,
anything created with nato, would be great.
 In fact any info, links, videos, images, music etc.
that anyone cares to share would be hugely
appreciated. Luckily, i still have a few years worth
of old Mcgill list 'mails on an old machine to trawl
through, but I'd really like to see some actual
NN/nato video, if anyone has any to share.

As you would imagine, she's left a suitably obscure
trail; what little there is, even on the Internet
Archive, is curiously devoid of any actual artwork
(other than reams of ASCII art, of course).

I have managed to find a few little nato/maxlets, but
so far, I've not had much success trying to run them -
am I right in thinking that nato (runtime) wont run in
Classic, ie. that I'd have to boot into OS9 ? 
 My only PPC machine is refusing to boot into OS9 atm,
so my only option is to reformat my laptop, which I'd
rather avoid if i can.

Please contact me off list (roger at
wildfrontear.co.uk) if you have anything to share,
TIA,
Roger

capitalizt sourz codz cann0t kapt_ure //zzttt

How was that? Not bad? Ill even wear a wig!!! Reading those archives are fucking ||amuzzz_ng || _ ++--

OH NOES, I HAS NATOS?!!!!!LOLZ! JITTER STOLE MAH BUKKET.

*headdesk*. I officially have nothing constructive to add what so ever. Please ignore.

capitalizt sourz codz cann0t kapt_ure //zzttt 

> OH NOES, I HAS NATOS?!!!!!LOLZ! JITTER STOLE MAH BUKKET.

> *headdesk*. I officially have nothing constructive to add what so ever. Please ignore.

nothing constructive? that was brilliant!

> OH NOES, I HAS NATOS?!!!!!LOLZ! JITTER STOLE MAH BUKKET.
>
> *headdesk*. I officially have nothing constructive to add what so ever. Please ignore.
>

nothing constructive? that was brilliant!


Damn - you're hired! How am I going to tell the wife ?

She was supposed to be playing Netochka...

> capitalizt sourz codz cann0t kapt_ure //zzttt

> How was that? Not bad? Ill even wear a wig!!!

> Reading those archives are fucking ||amuzzz_ng || _

> OH NOES, I HAS NATOS?!!!!!LOLZ! JITTER STOLE MAH

> *headdesk*. I officially have nothing constructive

Damn - you're hired! How am I going to tell the wife ?
She was supposed to be playing Netochka...
cheers
Roger
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> capitalizt sourz codz cann0t kapt_ure //zzttt
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> How was that? Not bad? Ill even wear a wig!!!
> Reading those archives are fucking ||amuzzz_ng || _
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> I suggest you do a LOLCAT NN mashup?
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> OH NOES, I HAS NATOS?!!!!!LOLZ! JITTER STOLE MAH
> BUKKET.
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> *headdesk*. I officially have nothing constructive
> to add what so ever. Please ignore.
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just started to read the novel from fyodor dostoyevsky ...

some where i have some archives of the +55 list if you want

we are busy with a project about nn too.
just started to read the novel from fyodor dostoyevsky ...

some where i have some archives of  the +55 list if you want

The project itself is very much in it's infancy at the

moment, but she is a bigger Dostoevsky fan than she is

a technology fan (that's my job :), she was keen to

read the book first to see what inspiration she could

i would love to see those list 'mails if/when you

> we are busy with a project about nn too.

> just started to read the novel from fyodor

> some where i have some archives of the +55 list if

My wife is just finishing it! 
The project itself is very much in it's infancy at the
moment, but she is a bigger Dostoevsky fan than she is
a technology fan (that's my job :), she was keen to
read the book first to see what inspiration she could
find there.
 i would love to see those list 'mails if/when you
find them,
cheers
Roger
--- MJ  wrote:

> we are busy with a project about nn too.
> just started to read the novel from fyodor
> dostoyevsky ...
>
>
> some where i have some archives of  the +55 list if
> you want
>
> -mj
>


http://www.subtletechnologies.com/2006/symposium/Dan.html

+ - meta got a nato runtime running under classic with his panaroma

1 - http://www.subtletechnologies.com/2006/symposium/Dan.html
2 - http://www.3via.org/wordpress/?p=36

                               o_O wow we will all be recycled / hTTp://eyescratch.tk


Now here's something I'm interested in!!!

http://music.calarts.edu/~cchaplin/lev/archive/2000-january/index.html

All of the messages from integer@www.god-emil.dk are from her.

*She kindly (yet directly) declines an invitation from David Zicarelli to attend a show displaying Max.

*A beautiful ASCII model of the human heart.

*A long speech about the school systems of today and their ability to squash the natural human instinct to be curious and want to learn. (

http://music.calarts.edu/~cchaplin/lev/archive/2000-january/msg00015.html)

*A bunch of dead links to old websites (m9ndfuck.com and such)

Highlights:
*She kindly (yet directly) declines an invitation from David Zicarelli to attend a show displaying Max.

*A long speech about the school systems of today and their ability to squash the natural human instinct to be curious and want to learn. (http://music.calarts.edu/~cchaplin/lev/archive/2000-january/msg00015.html)

*A bunch of dead links to old websites (m9ndfuck.com and such)


Phew! Don'tcha just love academe-speak ? I actually

'a phylotically entwined polymorphic web of covalent

Good call getting 'pataphysics' in there though -

Btw, I did manage to get a bootable OS 9 machine by

cloning an old drive - from what i can see, it a

appears that Nato runtime will sort-of work in

Classic, but works a lot better if you boot into OS9

> + - meta got a nato runtime running under classic

Phew! Don'tcha just love academe-speak ? I actually
think I NN is easier to follow ... 
 'a phylotically entwined polymorphic web of covalent
potentialities' indeed! Magic. 
Good call getting 'pataphysics' in there though -
think we'll steal that one ;-)

Btw, I did manage to get a bootable OS 9 machine by
cloning an old drive - from what i can see, it a
appears that Nato runtime will sort-of work in
Classic, but works a lot better if you boot into OS9
 Many thanks, and keep it coming!
cheers
Roger

> > My wife is just finishing it!
>
> there are of course 2 versions:
>
> 1 -
>
http://www.subtletechnologies.com/2006/symposium/Dan.html
> 2 - http://www.3via.org/wordpress/?p=36
>
> + - meta got a nato runtime running under classic
> with his panaroma
>
>                                o_O wow we will all
> be recycled / hTTp://eyescratch.tk
>


Thanks for that youtube link, that was freaking GREAT!

What is up with the Netochka resurgence? I've heard a lot of strange 

I just picked up the new book that DJ Spooky edited (called Sound 

Unbound) because it had some essays by a few decent people in it. In 

the second chapter our dear Prof Paul D. Miller spends like two pages 

on Netochka as some sort of Post-Modern BS. Get this, I swear I'm 

"Think of her as an update to Walter Benjamin's 'The Work of Art in 

"...Nezvanova is part and parcel of the mythology of the online 

I throw up in my mouth a little every time I read his stuff. We have a 

damned _mythology_ now, evidently. I'm going to write an epic poem on 

What is up with the Netochka resurgence? I've heard a lot of strange  
stories lately...

I just picked up the new book that DJ Spooky edited (called Sound  
Unbound) because it had some essays by a few decent people in it. In  
the second chapter our dear Prof Paul D. Miller spends like two pages  
on Netochka as some sort of Post-Modern BS. Get this, I swear I'm  
quoting:

"Think of her as an update to Walter Benjamin's 'The Work of Art in  
the Age of Mechanical Reproduction'".

"...Nezvanova is part and parcel of the mythology of the online  
software scene..."

I throw up in my mouth a little every time I read his stuff. We have a  
damned _mythology_ now, evidently. I'm going to write an epic poem on  
Studio Vision now.

Did anybody experienced a max5 crash when using #file on 

This is happening on my PB g4 (1.67 1.5GBRam) and only if I add the 

#file line script on menubar object (menutitle is working). The crash 

Did anybody experienced a max5 crash when using #file  on  
menubar object?

This is happening on my PB g4 (1.67 1.5GBRam) and only if I add the  
#file line script on menubar object (menutitle is working). The crash  
occurs when enabling the object.

>What is up with the Netochka resurgence?...

Maybe a bit pukey in the limitless now of the 'tubes, but 90's nostalgia is about to rear its head, as it is closing in on 20 years away from "the 90's". Though nostalgia and myth are different species, if you blur your eyes, they can start looking the same. Kinda like reptiles and birds...

Not long ago, in a public place (the airport) I overheard a teen on the cellphone say to her friend "Everyone there was dressed like in the 90's." 

>What is up with the Netochka resurgence?...
>We have a 
>damned _mythology_ now, evidently.

Maybe a bit pukey in the limitless now of the 'tubes, but 90's nostalgia is about to rear its head, as it is closing in on 20 years away from "the 90's".  Though nostalgia and myth are different species, if you blur your eyes, they can start looking the same.  Kinda like reptiles and birds...
Not long ago, in a public place (the airport) I overheard a teen on the cellphone say to her friend "Everyone there was dressed like in the 90's."  
GAME ON!

> Luckily, i still have a few years worth of old Mcgill list 'mails on

Wow, would you be willing to share this treasure? Id love to find my

I do have some, but its far from complete and with big gaps in between...

ROGER CARRUTHERS schrieb:
> Luckily, i still have a few years worth of old Mcgill list 'mails on
> an old machine to trawl through,

Wow, would you be willing to share this treasure? Id love to find my
first post on the list...

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