jazzisfaction

I know it's maybe a stupid question but sometimes I just don't see the easy things.

Is there any way or an external to change a number box in steps of 50 or 100 or whatever WITHOUT adding a multiplication or a scale and without using a slider?

So really a number box which I can change from 100 to 200 to 300.....

I would like to change my cut-off frequency and for a highpass filter I need high values and it shouldn't take me too much time to go up all the way to 5000 Hz or more and for visual and user-friendly reasons I only want to use one number box with which you see is what you get.....

I know it's maybe a stupid question but sometimes I just don't see the easy things.
Is there any way or an external to change a number box in steps of 50 or 100 or whatever WITHOUT adding a multiplication or a scale and without using a slider?
So really a number box which I can change from 100 to 200 to 300.....

Why do I need it?
I would like to change my cut-off frequency and for a highpass filter I need high values and it shouldn't take me too much time to go up all the way to 5000 Hz or more and for visual and user-friendly reasons I only want to use one number box with which you see is what you get.....

number-box

Try a umenu in scrolling mode? You'll have to specify every number you want to be available, but it's still quicker than any alternatives that I can think of.

Try a umenu in scrolling mode?  You'll have to specify every number you want to be available, but it's still quicker than any alternatives that I can think of.


Thanx...nice and easy solution but still you have to do the multiplication afterwards. But it's already better :-)

Strange that you can't change the steps in which a number box works.

Maybe a good idea for a little modification for the next Max/MSP update?

Thanx...nice and easy solution but still you have to do the multiplication afterwards. But it's already better :-)
Strange that you can't change the steps in which a number box works.
Maybe a good idea for a little modification for the next Max/MSP update?


You could use a live.numbox which provides a 'Steps' parameter.

I thought it was a fantastic idea but it doesn't work properly cause it works with floats and I can't use integers cause they are limited to 255 and I need a limit of 20000.......

Thanx anyway...hope there are other solutions

If you use the middle outlet of the umenu (menu item text evaluated as a message) then you'll get the values you want. The only issue is that it sends out a new value on mouseUp, doesn't seem to be an option to change that.

If you use the middle outlet of the umenu (menu item text evaluated as a message) then you'll get the values you want.  The only issue is that it sends out a new value on mouseUp, doesn't seem to be an option to change that.


yes, you are right. But the mouseUp is no problem cause I'll remote control it anyway with a knob ;-)

Thanx man...I really will take your solution I guess :-)

damn....it stays a lot of work if you want to go up to 20000 with this patch ;-)

I mean writing all this values manually into the inspector...

damn....it stays a lot of work if you want to go up to 20000 with this patch ;-)
I mean writing all this values manually into the inspector...


yeah...this is it :-) Like a presumed: it is a very easy solution....

yeah...this is it :-) Like a presumed: it is a very easy solution....
Thanx man

BUT now you have another problem. Let's say you don't want to go above 20000 in steps of 100. So you set the number box at a max value of 200 (200*100=20000). And now you get a 'stack overflow' cause on the one hand you don't want the number box to go beyond 200, on the other hand -with the multiplication- it goes to 20000....

Have a closer look at the patch, there are two number boxes. The display one is visible and sits underneath the control one which is set to be transparent. You can set the transparent one to your desired range, in this case 0-200. As you mentioned it is for a filter you might want to try using one that scales evenly across the frequency range so I've included an example that accepts MIDI values from a [slider] and one that gives you finer control. If there's anything you don't understand then just ask.

Just one more question: can you somehow explain how you figured out the expr calculation or tell me where I can learn things like this or if there is a book which tells me more about it.

Hey Luke,
that's cool. Now it REALLY works.
Just one more question: can you somehow explain how you figured out the expr calculation or tell me where I can learn things like this or if there is a book which tells me more about it. 

Thanx so much for your patience
Cheers
Peer


nice trick with the transparency. thanks for that one

why not use filtergraph~? looks way cooler :) but maybe it's too big...

just a thought, especially if you're controlling with a knob, you could still see the values as numbers if you want, but get visual feedback too. plus it's one of the most interesting and useful objects IMO...

I'm already using a filtergraph in my patcher just for making things clear visually. You can see perfectly how the cut off or Q are changing.

I'm just wondering where you guys know all these expr calculations from, cause I see them often on the forum. I was always very good in maths but these things look like chinese to me......

I'm already using a filtergraph in my patcher just for making things clear visually. You can see perfectly how the cut off or Q are changing.
So this was not really my problem....

I'm just wondering where you guys know all these expr calculations from, cause I see them often on the forum. I was always very good in maths but these things look like chinese to me......


Good old maths A-level. Its basically [mtof] and [scale] combined into one. The values in the [expr] are the difference and offset of 20 and 20000 sent to [ftom 0.]. Change these vales if you want to change the range to something else.

Ok...thanx Luke...I will think about all that again and I hope I'll understand it.

If I would ever have known that maths or physics become again so important in my life...but man, it's been 20 years now and you forget so much and so fast......

Ok...thanx Luke...I will think about all that again and I hope I'll understand it.
If I would ever have known that maths or physics become again so important in my life...but man, it's been 20 years now and you forget so much and so fast......

btw, live.numbox will work as expected in the next incremental, when the steps attribute is set. Thanks for pointing this out.