davidgunn

I am looking for some building blocks to create some self-organising audio tools.

I've come across the Boids object, but am looking for something that helps with more "emergent" effects, rather than simple flocking.

I am looking for some building blocks to create some self-organising audio tools. 

I've come across the Boids object, but am looking for something that helps with more "emergent" effects, rather than simple flocking. 

objects-for-self-organising-systems-emergence

By self-organizing audio tools, do you mean interpolating audio parameters?

This is something I am interested in as well. But it does not have to

be a complicated solution. You might want to look into the preset

interpolation capabilities of pattr. You can use probability weighting and

I think it even lets you specify your own function.

I would be more intersted in being able to use computational

geometry to interpolate between parameters. Or some other alg:

genetic, boids, etc. It would be neat if pattr had a little more

flexibility in letting you decide what comes next.

This is something I am interested in as well. But it does not have to
be a complicated solution. You might want to look into the preset
interpolation capabilities of pattr. You can use probability weighting and
I think it even lets you specify your own function.

I would be more intersted in being able to use computational
geometry to interpolate between parameters. Or some other alg:
genetic, boids, etc. It would be neat if pattr had a little more
flexibility in letting you decide what comes next.


Take a peek at examples/javascript/simulation. These examples all demonstrate a generalized agent simulation model which could easily be extended. However, this requires learning Javascript if you don't already know it.

You might be able to do some things with [table], whereby you send it a bang and it sends out a randomly-selected value based on probability (indices with higher values come out more often). With some feedback based on the output, like preferentially incrementing or decrementing values based on what you get, these tables could exhibit some interesting evolution-like behavior. Then you could sample them at various times in the evolution for your parameter data.

The [pattr] idea is also an excellent one... just see all the different ways you can generate values between 0. and 1. (in some kind of emergent/evolutionary way, like the [table] idea above) and use these for your interpolation.

http://maple.cs.umbc.edu/~don/projects/SAF/necp-saso.pdf

Thanks to all. Anthony - rather than interpolating effects, i was more interested in creating setups where (for example) an audio sample is loaded, and then various soundscapes (based on resequencing / fft) are randomly cycled through before the patch leans towards a certain (randomised) structure, which then becomes the basis for future collapses / rebuilds.

I'm planning to use it in a granulator where the algorhythms indicate how far forward or back in time each grain would be from current playpoint and build out from there.

Basically - i do a lot of live resampling in max for performances and looking for a way to create more coherent evolutionary patches (rather than purely randomised stuff)

But both the pattr and table ideas are good places to start - thank you. And cheers Joshua - tho my javascript skills will take some work!

I'm planning to use it in a granulator where the algorhythms indicate how far forward or back in time each grain would be from current playpoint and build out from there. 

But both the pattr and table ideas are good places to start - thank you. And cheers Joshua - tho my javascript skills will take some work!


Objects for self-organising systems / emergence