this is primarily aimed at the cycling ’74 crew as this will apply to them.
i did put a post on some months ago, but only one other person answered with my same question, wondering about snow leopard and the compatibility between max 5 and snow leopard.

but with the up-coming release of snow leopard for os x, will max 5 be able to work in it?
will it be possible to get the upgrade of snow leopard without the worry that max 5 won’t work until an update is installed?

this does need to looked at, as snow leopard is round the corner. and more than likely most people will get it, when it is released in september. even i am on a mailing list to tell me when it is released, and will get a cheap upgrade for it as well.

i do hope at least someone with an answer can help, because this would become a serious matter if it doesn’t work…

i would really hate that if people do update, it wont be for another few months until a max update was available for snow leopard.

maybe i am thinking way too much into it, or maybe not enough. but the fact is, that this is still an update of operating system that could render most of your programs useless until a update for a program is created.

anyhow, enough about the future. let’s make some music now …

thats too early, guys!

-110

It’s not like I’m asking the crew at cycling to pat me on the back and tell me it’ll all be okay, but I think it’s fair to say this is a concern for some people and that any news on the matter would be appreciated. I’m looking to purchase new computers in the fall and would hate to have this be a serious issue should Snow Leopard come pre-installed.

Personally I don’t care if jitter works or not, but I’m sure a lot of people do, and that seems to be one of the more likely troublemaker candidates , due to quicktime X.

And, are there any benefits to using openCL in some way in max? I know it’s possible to do some weird magic with jit.gl.slab and use the graphics card to process some things that way. What about Grand Central? AFAIK, Max runs in only 2 threads, and poly~ instances spread themselves across processors relatively well without Grand Central.

So: Does Max 5 work at all with Snow Leopard? Are there any speed improvements for Max 5 by upgrading? Does it blend?

http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/

NOTE: AS FAR IS I GOT IT YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO INSTALL/LEAVE QUICKTIME 7 WITH SNOW LEOPARD. I GUESS THIS IS CRUCIAL FOR THE JITTER/QT OBJECTS IN MAX TO WORK.

http://d0cut0uch.no-ip.info/index.php/audio/tutorials/26-sf

i ordered my copy on the launch date. so by next week should have it in my hands, and really get down and dirty.

i was even wondering about ableton live and max updates. whether they would be needed, or would it plainly just be an install and play your tits off.

i am surprised that none of the cycling crew have answered any questions on this matter, as they do read and filter on the forum.

would be nice to check out the capabilities of openCL and even quicktime x. lets hope they all work fine with max 5.

i am going to mail the support on this issue. because more than likely, people, like me, have ordered the new snow leopard. i am not so much worried if things dont work for a few weeks for a new update, i dont use max enough on a professional scale (more ableton suite 8 for that). but more so that what if an update does not come for ages, you know.

aye, new updates can be a pain …

You can install it via Airfoil http://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/
It works great, I suspect there is an issue with the SounfFlower installer, not soundflower by itself.

i ordered my copy on the launch date. so by next week should have it in my hands, and really get down and dirty.

i was even wondering about ableton live and max updates. whether they would be needed, or would it plainly just be an install and play your tits off.

i am surprised that none of the cycling crew have answered any questions on this matter, as they do read and filter on the forum.

would be nice to check out the capabilities of openCL and even quicktime x. lets hope they all work fine with max 5.

i am going to mail the support on this issue. because more than likely, people, like me, have ordered the new snow leopard. i am not so much worried if things dont work for a few weeks for a new update, i dont use max enough on a professional scale (more ableton suite 8 for that). but more so that what if an update does not come for ages, you know.

aye, new updates can be a pain …

Abltone have released a statement on the forum here:

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=122995

Abletons main statement “5. Does Ableton recommend upgrading to Mac OS X 10.6? If your main concern is stability, we don’t recommend upgrading to 10.6 until compatibility for Live and all of your third-party software and hardware products has been assured by the responsible companies.”

Personally usually I jump at these upgrades but I’m going to leave this one a bit as my system with Ableton Live and Max/Msp is super stable at the moment and I have work to do

but this, oooh, is not good at all. i too use ableton suite 8 for work, and it is stable as is it right now. although i do need to clear vst/au plugins that are duff and drag my machine [same with max externals]. now up to too many plug ins to choose from. something like 200-250 now, very silly indeed. but freeware plug in hunting can become an addiction some days

right, this has hit the nail in the coffin now. i wont update my system at all until a stable update for ableton and max has come out.
i ordered my snow leopard disk on the friday release. but when it arrives, i will just stuff it in my ‘to-do-when-the-time-is-right’ file

thanks for that most useful of info tom. helps.

aye, updates, we want them, but we have to be careful, dang…

Thread 27 Crashed:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90b303c3 asl_close + 26
1 com.apple.SystemConfiguration 0x90c7b5e0 __SCThreadSpecificDataFinalize + 39
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90b01a27 _pthread_tsd_cleanup + 88
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90b0163a _pthread_exit + 154
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90af8e66 thread_start + 34

I thought I’d give snow leopard a go… I can’t get Max to even startup…..

Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x00298a81 juce::ATSFontHelper::getPathAndKerning(wchar_t, wchar_t, juce::Path*, float&, float*, float*, unsigned long*) + 311
1 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x002985a1 juce::Typeface::findAndAddSystemGlyph(wchar_t) + 585
2 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x002f2eb1 juce::Typeface::getGlyph(wchar_t) + 125
3 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x002ee205 juce::GlyphArrangement::addCurtailedLineOfText(juce::Font const&, juce::String const&, float, float, float, bool) + 227
4 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x002ee372 juce::GlyphArrangement::addLineOfText(juce::Font const&, juce::String const&, float, float) + 62
5 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x002ef552 juce::GlyphArrangement::addJustifiedText(juce::Font const&, juce::String const&, float, float, float, juce::Justification const&) + 70
6 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x001338ac jtextlayout_set + 618
7 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x00133b3b jfont_text_measure_wrapped + 141
8 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x001b9f7a textfield_getlayoutinfo(_textfield*, long, double*, double*, long*, double*, double*) + 488
9 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x000ad05b object_method + 901
10 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0×00117021 jbox_reline(_jbox*, symbol*, long) + 175
11 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x001192c0 jbox_new + 3344
12 com.cycling74.MaxAPI 0x034ca6d2 jbox_new + 50
13 com.cycling74.message 0x177fdb6c jmessage_new + 98
14 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0×00018983 typedmess_fun + 1973
15 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x000ad37f object_new_typed_flags + 435
16 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x000ad3f8 object_new_typed + 46
17 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x0015d908 jpatcher_newobject + 358
18 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x0015dd9e jpatcher_pastefromdictionary + 286
19 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x0016a22d jpatcher_fromdictionary + 1471
20 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x0016a491 jpatcher_new + 593
21 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0×00018983 typedmess_fun + 1973
22 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x000ad3ba object_new_typed_flags + 494
23 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x000ad3f8 object_new_typed + 46
24 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x0000d879 jpatcher_load_fromdictionary(char*, short, object*, short, atom*) + 437
25 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x0000d9f8 jpatcher_load_frombuffer(char*, short, char const*, long, short, atom*) + 310
26 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x0000dc37 jpatcher_load(char*, short, short, atom*) + 373
27 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x0000debd lowload_type + 589
28 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x0000e829 primload_type + 105
29 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x0000e85f startupfile + 33
30 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x0002626c startup_load + 284
31 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x0000fd3a max_startup + 370
32 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x001c9889 MaxApplication::initialise(juce::String const&) + 23
33 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x002a30b3 juce::JUCEApplication::main(juce::String&, juce::JUCEApplication*) + 533
34 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x002a31d5 juce::JUCEApplication::main(int, char**, juce::JUCEApplication*) + 125
35 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x001c994a main + 76
36 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0×00002592 _start + 216
37 com.cycling74.MaxMSP 0x000024b9 start + 41

I’m guessing it is in some way related to juce on my laptop
Does anyone have any clues, or shall I just revert back to 10.5.7 for a while?

Thanks,
Leigh

what about max 4.6.x ?

does anyone tested it ? can somebody try and post a reply please ?

thanks

g

but, like i said, i am going to wait until an update, or confirmation has been given to give the go ahead that max 5, and also ableton live will work on snow leopard with no flaws.

ooh, i want to try the new features…