[ot] disable mouse in OS but still using as hid

Oct 21, 2007 at 12:55pm

[ot] disable mouse in OS but still using as hid

#34264
Oct 22, 2007 at 4:40pm

#115323
Oct 22, 2007 at 5:21pm

heh, i have a solution for os9

http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=objects&id_objet=2317&requested=sproc&operateur=AND&id_plateforme=0

unfortunately, it is not possible with hi :(

#115324
Oct 28, 2007 at 5:35pm

Kasper T Toeplitz schrieb:
> don’t know – but if you find out please keep us informed – i tried to do
> so many times, on powerbooks (mac) – keeping the trackpad as “official”
> mouse and an extra mouse as hi controller

You would have to write a special driver for the mouse.
Like that driver for the trackpad called FingaMIDI, which will do the
opposite: turn off the trackpad as pointer device, turn it into a Midi
controler and leave the mouse as such… (Unfortunately it doesn’t work
in Tiger anymore)

You have to teach the OS to do that.

On the other hand, the hi object will always track the mice, if you
design your patch in a way that you can control it without mouse, it
should be possible to track 6 mice with hi…
(best is to go to fullscreen and disable all menus…)

Stefan…


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#115325
Oct 28, 2007 at 5:43pm

>> – keeping the trackpad as “official” mouse and an extra mouse as
>>hi controller
>
>
>Like that driver for the trackpad called FingaMIDI

yeah, exactly – but since i find the track pad to be an expressive
tool (much more than a mouse) i decided not to use fingamidi

now if only the rumours about the new trackpad being multi-touch were
true…….

best

kasper

Kasper T. Toeplitz
noise, composition, bass, computer

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#115326
Oct 28, 2007 at 7:06pm

On 28-oct.-07, at 18:43, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
>
> yeah, exactly – but since i find the track pad to be an expressive
> tool (much more than a mouse) i decided not to use fingamidi

The only Kernel Panic my Titanium had in 4 years was because of
FingaMIDI. Beware ;-)

p

#115327
Oct 31, 2007 at 5:52pm

Kasper T Toeplitz schrieb:
> now if only the/ rumours/ about the new trackpad being multi-touch were
> true…….

The Trackpad on my old Powerbook is for sure multitouch, as it
distingushes between one finger or two finger movements.

It even passes something to hi: (watch the third value when using a
second finger…)

#P window setfont “Sans Serif” 9.;
#P window linecount 2;
#P newex 31 242 50 196617 loadmess poll 10;
#P number 127 389 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 79 389 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 31 389 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 127 360 46 196617 accum;
#P newex 127 339 28 196617 t b i;
#P newex 79 360 46 196617 accum;
#P newex 79 339 28 196617 t b i;
#P newex 31 360 46 196617 accum;
#P newex 31 339 28 196617 t b i;
#P newex 31 312 154 196617 route 4 5 6;
#P newex 31 284 139 196617 hi “Apple Internal Trackpad”;
#P connect 0 0 1 0;
#P connect 11 0 0 0;
#P connect 1 0 2 0;
#P connect 2 0 3 0;
#P connect 2 1 3 1;
#P connect 4 1 5 1;
#P connect 4 0 5 0;
#P connect 6 0 7 0;
#P connect 6 1 7 1;
#P connect 1 1 4 0;
#P connect 1 2 6 0;
#P connect 3 0 8 0;
#P connect 5 0 9 0;
#P connect 7 0 10 0;
#P window clipboard copycount 12;


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#115328
Oct 31, 2007 at 10:35pm

>Kasper T Toeplitz schrieb:
>>now if only the/ rumours/ about the new trackpad being multi-touch
>>were true…….
>
>The Trackpad on my old Powerbook is for sure multitouch, as it
>distingushes between one finger or two finger movements.
>
>It even passes something to hi: (watch the third value when using a
>second finger…)
>

really cool – ok, the hi numbers are not the same on my pbook, and
the 2nd finger thing only works since i installed iScroll2

but this 3rd output could be something interesting!!!

thank you

kasper

Kasper T. Toeplitz
noise, composition, bass, computer

http://www.sleazeArt.com

http://www.myspace.com/sleazeart

#115329
Nov 1, 2007 at 6:02pm

>>
>>>now if only the/ rumours/ about the new trackpad being multi-touch
>>>were true…….
>>
>>The Trackpad on my old Powerbook is for sure multitouch, as it
>>distingushes between one finger or two finger movements.
>>
>>It even passes something to hi: (watch the third value when using a
>>second finger…)
>>
>
>
>really cool – ok, the hi numbers are not the same on my pbook, and
>the 2nd finger thing only works since i installed iScroll2
>
>but this 3rd output could be something interesting!!!

Sure but it’s not what i would call multitouch – when i use the 3rd
value, the first 2 ones (the actual track pad) can not be moved at
the same time – or can it on your pbook, Stefan??

best

kasper

Kasper T. Toeplitz
noise, composition, bass, computer

http://www.sleazeArt.com

http://www.myspace.com/sleazeart

#115330
Nov 2, 2007 at 9:52am

Kasper T Toeplitz schrieb:
> Sure but it’s not what i would call multitouch – when i use the 3rd
> value, the first 2 ones (the actual track pad) can not be moved at the
> same time – or can it on your pbook, Stefan??

I haven’t looked at all into the meaning of these values or into a way
to translate them. I just know that I can scroll if I put two fingers on
my pad, and move the cursor if its one.

Maybe its necessary to write a specific driver, if the values of hi
don’t deliver what you need. Its just an observation, that the hardware
obviously is capable of multitouch…

For my own taste the touchpad is way too small for me to consider it as
important expresional input device, but I might change my mind if
someone gets it going… ;-)

Stefan


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#115331
Nov 2, 2007 at 10:10am

>Kasper T Toeplitz schrieb:
>>Sure but it’s not what i would call multitouch – when i use the 3rd
>>value, the first 2 ones (the actual track pad) can not be moved at
>>the same time – or can it on your pbook, Stefan??
>
>I haven’t looked at all into the meaning of these values or into a
>way to translate them. I just know that I can scroll if I put two
>fingers on my pad, and move the cursor if its one.
>
>Maybe its necessary to write a specific driver, if the values of hi
>don’t deliver what you need. Its just an observation, that the
>hardware obviously is capable of multitouch…
>
>For my own taste the touchpad is way too small for me to consider it
>as important expresional input device, but I might change my mind if
>someone gets it going… ;-)

the track pad is my favourite expression tool (and i bought and had
custom-made a LOT of midi/usb devices, including sensors and web cams)

but

when talking about teh values hi receives from the trackpad, you are
right i can receive 3 differents “streams” of them, but it’s either 2
at a time (which seem to be the “normal” track pad x-y) OR the 3rd
one (the extra finger) but no way (at least on my computer) to
receive all 3 at the same time, and worse to receive the 3rd one when
I use the track pad the usual way..

since the 2nd finger started to work on my Pbook, only with the help
of iScroll app (it is not “standart” as it is on some newer macs) my
question here is if on your machine you can vary the values of all 3
streams at the same time

many thanks

best

kasper

Kasper T. Toeplitz
noise, composition, bass, computer

http://www.sleazeArt.com

http://www.myspace.com/sleazeart

#115332
Nov 3, 2007 at 9:18am

Kasper T Toeplitz schrieb:
> my question here is if on your machine you can vary the values of all
> 3 streams at the same time

It seems to be that the third value is only activ on the y-axis. And it
seems the driver will not allow to change all three at the same time.
Its either x + 3rd or y + 3rd.
I once had a driver for the pad which would also give a z value, for
pressure, but that’s long ago, maybe OS 9 days…

The pad seems much more powerful than the connection to the OS…

Stefan


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#115333
Dec 31, 2007 at 9:38am

Hi,
Does somebody had news on that subject??
driver?

thanks

freeka

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