overload prob

Hi all.
I have many patchers inside my patch one of the pathers is an eq stage. I am trying to find a way so when I save the top level patcher usin a preset box it saves all the settings in my many patchers. One way i have thought it may be possible is to send each setting output lets say freq on filter graph to an output from patcher then in the top level patch attach that output to a slider set to float. as i know preset can save sliders without needing to connect them. however when i connect this slider back into the patcher using an input thats connected to freq on filter graph max crashes. I believe its because im creating a info loop. is their any way of fixing this.
Thanks Lee