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					<title><![CDATA[patcher &#039;embed patcher&#039;, crash related ?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>I recently had quite a lot of trouble with a REALLY simple patch. On many occasion, the saving of the patch didn&#8217;t seem to work, resulting in a corrupted patch : weird connections, objects/sub-patchs missing, etc. I had a search thru the archives and found some post mentionning this problem, but no official reason for this kind of trouble. I wonder if it could be related to the use of bpatcher with &#8216;embed patcher&#8217; set to on. The fact is that I never had the corrupted patchs problem before and I never used this option of bpatcher. Moreover, I now set the option off and I did not get this problem anymore &#8211; at least for now. Does someone have some infos about this or experienced the same behaviour ?</p>
<p>Sorry for the lack of precisions, but I can&#8217;t reproduce the problem. It just happened. I first thought it was related to pattrstorage as well since it happened when having to save the xml file, but it does not seem to be consistent neither. I&#8217;m on Mac, last OS, last Max, if it helps.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: patcher &#039;embed patcher&#039;, crash related ?]]></title>
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						<p>Was this a one off occurrance or has it happened multiple times? as I have never had this problem.</p>
<p>The only time I have ever experienced anything like what you describe was when I accidentally created a stack overflow that occurred upon launch. I had to edit the max text to remove the problem but this also created issues similar to what you describe.</p>
<p>What I am getting at I suppose is &#8211; Is there anything that you may have done to cause it &#8211; if it is a one off?</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: patcher &#039;embed patcher&#039;, crash related ?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: patcher &#039;embed patcher&#039;, crash related ?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>lists@lowfrequency.or</dc:creator>

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						<p>I see the same behavior with that option checked, was just scratching  <br />
my head about it too.  It is very consistent when I change the  <br />
embedded bpatcher.  Perhaps this is expected behavior.</p>
<p>Max 1.6.3/Jitter 1.6.3rc1</p>
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On Jun 2, 2007, at 10:06 PM, jln wrote:</p>
<p>><br />
> I recently had quite a lot of trouble with a REALLY simple patch.  <br />
> On many occasion, the saving of the patch didn&#8217;t seem to work,  <br />
> resulting in a corrupted patch : weird connections, objects/sub- <br />
> patchs missing, etc. I had a search thru the archives and found  <br />
> some post mentionning this problem, but no official reason for this  <br />
> kind of trouble. I wonder if it could be related to the use of  <br />
> bpatcher with &#8216;embed patcher&#8217; set to on. The fact is that I never  <br />
> had the corrupted patchs problem before and I never used this  <br />
> option of bpatcher. Moreover, I now set the option off and I did  <br />
> not get this problem anymore &#8211; at least for now. Does someone have  <br />
> some infos about this or experienced the same behaviour ?<br />
><br />
> Sorry for the lack of precisions, but I can&#8217;t reproduce the  <br />
> problem. It just happened. I first thought it was related to  <br />
> pattrstorage as well since it happened when having to save the xml  <br />
> file, but it does not seem to be consistent neither. I&#8217;m on Mac,  <br />
> last OS, last Max, if it helps.</p>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>jln</dc:creator>

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						<p>Quote: <a href="mailto:lists@lowfrequency.or">lists@lowfrequency.or</a> wrote on Mon, 04 June 2007 22:58<br />
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> I see the same behavior with that option checked, was just scratching  <br />
> my head about it too.  It is very consistent when I change the  <br />
> embedded bpatcher.  Perhaps this is expected behavior.<br />
> <br />
> Max 1.6.3/Jitter 1.6.3rc1</p>
<p>
mm&#8230; Ok. At least it&#8217;s good to know I&#8217;m not the only one in this case. I&#8217;ll avoid embedding my patcher, then.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Julien.</p>
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