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					<title><![CDATA[Patchers as Text with Mail.app]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 04:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Peter Castine</dc:creator>

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						<p>Dear Apple Mail Users,</p>
<p>Does anyone have an efficient way of Pasting patchers? Read on&#8230;</p>
<p>The problem: when you Copy a patcher to the Clipboard, Max creates  <br />
both image and text versions of the current selection. This is OK,  <br />
but when Pasting inside Apple Mail, Mail uses the image version.</p>
<p>In Mail 1.x the workaround was to Paste as Quotation (Shift-Cmd-V),  <br />
which forced use of the text version in the Clipboard, then to select  <br />
the patcher text and Decrease Quote Level: Opt-Cmd-&#8217; (apostrophe).</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t work in Mail 2.x, because even Paste as Quotation  <br />
inserts the image.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been doing this: In Max Copy, New Text, Paste, Copy, Close  <br />
(Don&#8217;t Save); then over to Mail and Paste. There&#8217;s got to be a better  <br />
way.</p>
<p>&#8211; P.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Patchers as Text with Mail.app]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/patchers-as-text-with-mail-app/#post-78656</link>
					<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>vade</dc:creator>

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						<p>oh wow. Ive been doing new, make patch example, save, open patch as  <br />
text, copy, dont save, paste into mail, remove rich text formatting,  <br />
manually remove obnoxious parts signature file to be polite, send.</p>
<p>an applescript workflow could happen probably, but I so rarely post  <br />
examples to the list&#8230;.</p>
<p>
v a d e //</p>
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abstrakt.vade.info</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Patchers as Text with Mail.app]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 06:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Jeremy Bernstein</dc:creator>

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						<p>I use this applescript in combination with iKey (although QuickSilver  <br />
triggers might work, too):</p>
<p>set foo to the clipboard<br />
set the clipboard to (foo as text)</p>
<p>and then Paste</p>
<p>jb</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Patchers as Text with Mail.app]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 07:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Trond Lossius</dc:creator>

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						<p>I copy the patch, make a new message box, past into it, copy at paste <br />
that into the mail. This has become such a habit that I have forgotten <br />
to check if it is still required now that I have moved to Thunderbird. <br />
Testing it, it isn&#8217;t. Yet another good reason to get rid of Mail, but <br />
that&#8217;s another long story&#8230;</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Trond</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Patchers as Text with Mail.app]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/patchers-as-text-with-mail-app/#post-78659</link>
					<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 07:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Emmanuel Jourdan</dc:creator>

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						<p>On 9 juin 06, at 09:07, Trond Lossius wrote:</p>
<p>>>> I&#8217;ve been doing this: In Max Copy, New Text, Paste, Copy, Close  <br />
>>> (Don&#8217;t Save); then over to Mail and Paste. There&#8217;s got to be a  <br />
>>> better way.</p>
<p>Hi Peter,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve the same technique, wich is pretty fast (if you have installed  <br />
my shortcuts modifications):<br />
command + C (copy the patch)<br />
alt + command + N (make a new text file)<br />
command + V (paste the patch as text)<br />
command + A (select all)<br />
command + C (copy the text)<br />
command + W (close the window)<br />
command + D (don&#8217;t save)<br />
switch to Mail&#8230;<br />
command + V (paste)</p>
<p>Of course with a little bit of practice it&#8217;s pretty fast but Jeremy&#8217;s  <br />
solution seems to be faster. I&#8217;ll try that.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
ej</p>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 08:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Peter Castine</dc:creator>

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						<p>And the prize for best solution before 10:00am EST (the Quizmaster&#8217;s&#8211; <br />
that&#8217;s me&#8211;decision is final) goes to&#8230;</p>
<p>On 9-Jun-2006, at 8:50, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:<br />
> I use this applescript in combination with iKey (although  <br />
> QuickSilver triggers might work, too):<br />
><br />
> set foo to the clipboard<br />
> set the clipboard to (foo as text)<br />
><br />
> and then Paste</p>
<p>Next beer&#8217;s on me. The advantage in Jeremy winning is that there&#8217;s a  <br />
chance we&#8217;ll actually see each other before the beer&#8217;s been forgotten.</p>
<p>Tech note: Mail seems to have a facility for attaching keystrokes to  <br />
items in the Script menu (if you have it turned on), so another  <br />
alternative to iKey/QuickSilver. Except it&#8217;s not working for me on  <br />
Fridays before 10:30am :-/</p>
<p>&#8211; Peter</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Patchers as Text with Mail.app]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/patchers-as-text-with-mail-app/#post-78661</link>
					<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Jeremy Bernstein</dc:creator>

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						<p>I think this got turned off in Tiger, but I could be wrong.</p>
<p>jb</p>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>dlurk</dc:creator>

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						<p>i can&#8217;t believe you post this after trond&#8217;s solution&#8230; which also <br />
solves all the other problems with apple mail.  ;)</p>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Peter Castine</dc:creator>

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						<p>On 9-Jun-2006, at 11:42, dlurk wrote:<br />
> i can&#8217;t believe you post this after trond&#8217;s solution&#8230;</p>
<p>The problem with Trond&#8217;s approach is that I simply don&#8217;t have the  <br />
energy to change mail client more often than once a year, preferably  <br />
more like once every five-ten years.</p>
<p>I looked at Thunderbird. I was not sufficiently impressed to make an  <br />
exception.</p>
<p>And, as da mahn sez, the Quizmaster&#8217;s decision is final.</p>
<p>&#8211; P</p>
<p>[Please cf the .sig from my previous post on this thread if you need it]</p>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 17:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>dlurk</dc:creator>

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						<p>> I looked at Thunderbird. I was not sufficiently impressed to make an <br />
> exception.</p>
<p>understood.  thunderbird is&#8230; interesting&#8230; from a usability <br />
standpoint.  i&#8217;ve been using it for about 1.5 years now, and i&#8217;ve never <br />
been impressed.  but it&#8217;s addictive &#8211; i&#8217;ve explored other clients in <br />
that time and there are features in tbird i can&#8217;t sacrifice at this <br />
point.  the identity handling is the big one.  (my previous long-term <br />
client was a thoroughly tweaked pine, if that lends perspective.) <br />
mail.app is just too inflexible and too limited in my view.  it&#8217;s <br />
pretty, but it&#8217;s shallow.</p>
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