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Piano with Electronics (Max/MSP with IcubeX + sensors)

February 6, 2009 | 8:36 pm

I’ve created a system in Max for Piano, a prepared piano with electronics, there’s a demo video of it…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo_gylFCNsA

also, i’m working on some piano and moog bar patches for some composers.

You can find info about it at http://www.thegullstrunkrecords.com/mofosnot

Is anybody else doing things for piano with max? I was using 8 touch sensors to control midi and MSP data to create real time effect control for performance.

Oh, and you can download the patch from that site too. Lemme know what you think!

peace. m


February 7, 2009 | 11:12 am

I love it !!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks for sharing , this absoloutly delightful !


February 9, 2009 | 5:04 pm

Wow this is really cool stuff! I am a pianist and a Max user
myself. At some point I would like to explore putting these
two things together much the way you have.

The problem is I do not have a Moog piano bar, which really
limits who much integration with Max I can do. Are
there any good alternatives to getting note and velocity
information to Max?


February 9, 2009 | 5:13 pm

Hey,

I didn’t actually use a piano bar for this system. I used the iCube X and some sensors. There are lots of sensors you could use, google it. It processes the live mic input, no velocity or pitch.

I am currently working on three pieces for moog bar for some composers, you can see the info on the site, though my university provides the moog bar, they’re expensive…

You could use a large midi keyboard full weight and use a real good sample piano, or stage piano with midi out? some ideas..

cool.

http://www.thegullstrunkrecords.com/mofosnot


February 9, 2009 | 5:32 pm

Dear all

There was a thread by Xenia Pestova on this I think on the CEC list.
She has done a compendium of pieces for piano and electronics for her
ph.d.

pa


February 9, 2009 | 5:46 pm

Thanks for the link pa. Funny bumping into you on here. I’m looking forward to hearing your moog piece.

btw, everyone. You can download the patch from the site link above.

m


February 9, 2009 | 6:20 pm

So the sensors on the keys are only triggers then. It would
be nice to have real time pitch info. I have yet to find a poly
phonic pitch detector that is reliable enough for performance.
That leaves the moog piano bar, a pretty expensive option.

One thing I was thinking about was putting pezio sensors under
each key of my piano. I of course would need 88 of them and
then run them to some control signal interface, like and IcubeX
or an Arduino? Has anyone tried this? Any thoughts?


February 9, 2009 | 6:43 pm

That was my original plan, 88 sensors, but it was too fiddly, and expensive, it would be good to work with something like that though…

The moog is reliable, though you have to scale the velocity on the way in, it’s a bit dainty.

m


February 10, 2009 | 12:40 am

Quote: panniccioli wrote on Mon, 09 February 2009 11:43
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> That was my original plan, 88 sensors, but it was too fiddly, and expensive, it would be good to work with something like that though…
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> The moog is reliable, though you have to scale the velocity on the way in, it’s a bit dainty.
>
> m
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So did the moog piano bar come out less expensive than the
cost of the 88 sensor setup? I think the piano bar runs about 1400
right now.


February 11, 2009 | 7:22 pm

I would buy a moog bar, though actually, you could use the sensors for other things, the moog bar is only for piano keyboard.

mmm. sensors, sensors. does anyone know of a cheaper alternative for the moog bar.


February 12, 2009 | 12:17 am

So if I were to use sensors, and an IcubeX, what kind of
sensors would I use? I was thinking I could put them under
each key, but they would have to be thin.


February 19, 2009 | 12:33 am

My dissertation from the performer perspective, piano/live electronics: http://xeniapestova.com/thesis.html and repertoire database: http://xeniapestova.com/electronicrepertoire.html if anyone is interested.

XP


February 19, 2009 | 1:27 am

Yeah, thin sensors could work, though you’d have to stick them tough for them not to work. It would look cool though.

m


September 9, 2010 | 6:39 pm

Any chance I could get a copy of this max patch? I saw the youtube video a few days ago, managed to stumble across this thread in the forum, but it appears that the patch isn’t on the site any more. I would appreciate it very much as I’m interested in doing something similar but in the field of generative music! thanks


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