panniccioli

I've created a system in Max for Piano, a prepared piano with electronics, there's a demo video of it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo_gylFCNsA

also, i'm working on some piano and moog bar patches for some composers.

http://www.thegullstrunkrecords.com/mofosnot

Is anybody else doing things for piano with max? I was using 8 touch sensors to control midi and MSP data to create real time effect control for performance.

Oh, and you can download the patch from that site too. Lemme know what you think!

also, i'm working on some piano and moog bar patches for some composers. 

You can find info about it at http://www.thegullstrunkrecords.com/mofosnot 

piano-with-electronics-maxmsp-with-icubex-sensors

thanks for sharing , this absoloutly delightful !

Wow this is really cool stuff! I am a pianist and a Max user 

myself. At some point I would like to explore putting these 

two things together much the way you have.

The problem is I do not have a Moog piano bar, which really 

limits who much integration with Max I can do. Are 

there any good alternatives to getting note and velocity 

Wow this is really cool stuff! I am a pianist and a Max user 
myself. At some point I would like to explore putting these 
two things together much the way you have. 

The problem is I do not have a Moog piano bar, which really 
limits who much integration with Max I can do. Are 
there any good alternatives to getting note and velocity 
information to Max?


I didn't actually use a piano bar for this system. I used the iCube X and some sensors. There are lots of sensors you could use, google it. It processes the live mic input, no velocity or pitch.

I am currently working on three pieces for moog bar for some composers, you can see the info on the site, though my university provides the moog bar, they're expensive...

You could use a large midi keyboard full weight and use a real good sample piano, or stage piano with midi out? some ideas..

http://www.thegullstrunkrecords.com/mofosnot


There was a thread by Xenia Pestova on this I think on the CEC list. 

She has done a compendium of pieces for piano and electronics for her 

There was a thread by Xenia Pestova on this I think on the CEC list.   
She has done a compendium of pieces for piano and electronics for her  
ph.d.

Thanks for the link pa. Funny bumping into you on here. I'm looking forward to hearing your moog piece.

btw, everyone. You can download the patch from the site link above.

Thanks for the link pa. Funny bumping into you on here. I'm looking forward to hearing your moog piece. 

So the sensors on the keys are only triggers then. It would

be nice to have real time pitch info. I have yet to find a poly

phonic pitch detector that is reliable enough for performance. 

That leaves the moog piano bar, a pretty expensive option.

One thing I was thinking about was putting pezio sensors under 

each key of my piano. I of course would need 88 of them and

then run them to some control signal interface, like and IcubeX

or an Arduino? Has anyone tried this? Any thoughts?

So the sensors on the keys are only triggers then. It would
be nice to have real time pitch info. I have yet to find a poly
phonic pitch detector that is reliable enough for performance. 
That leaves the moog piano bar, a pretty expensive option.

One thing I was thinking about was putting pezio sensors under 
each key of my piano. I of course would need 88 of them and
then run them to some control signal interface, like and IcubeX
or an Arduino? Has anyone tried this? Any thoughts?


That was my original plan, 88 sensors, but it was too fiddly, and expensive, it would be good to work with something like that though...

The moog is reliable, though you have to scale the velocity on the way in, it's a bit dainty.

Quote: panniccioli wrote on Mon, 09 February 2009 11:43

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> That was my original plan, 88 sensors, but it was too fiddly, and expensive, it would be good to work with something like that though...

> The moog is reliable, though you have to scale the velocity on the way in, it's a bit dainty.

So did the moog piano bar come out less expensive than the

cost of the 88 sensor setup? I think the piano bar runs about 1400

Quote: panniccioli wrote on Mon, 09 February 2009 11:43
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> That was my original plan, 88 sensors, but it was too fiddly, and expensive, it would be good to work with something like that though...
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> The moog is reliable, though you have to scale the velocity on the way in, it's a bit dainty.
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So did the moog piano bar come out less expensive than the
cost of the 88 sensor setup? I think the piano bar runs about 1400
right now.


I would buy a moog bar, though actually, you could use the sensors for other things, the moog bar is only for piano keyboard.

mmm. sensors, sensors. does anyone know of a cheaper alternative for the moog bar.

I would buy a moog bar, though actually, you could use the sensors for other things, the moog bar is only for piano keyboard. 

So if I were to use sensors, and an IcubeX, what kind of 

sensors would I use? I was thinking I could put them under 

each key, but they would have to be thin.

So if I were to use sensors, and an IcubeX, what kind of 
sensors would I use? I was thinking I could put them under 
each key, but they would have to be thin.


My dissertation from the performer perspective, piano/live electronics: 

http://xeniapestova.com/electronicrepertoire.html

My dissertation from the performer perspective, piano/live electronics: http://xeniapestova.com/thesis.html and repertoire database: http://xeniapestova.com/electronicrepertoire.html if anyone is interested.

Yeah, thin sensors could work, though you'd have to stick them tough for them not to work. It would look cool though.

Any chance I could get a copy of this max patch? I saw the youtube video a few days ago, managed to stumble across this thread in the forum, but it appears that the patch isn't on the site any more. I would appreciate it very much as I'm interested in doing something similar but in the field of generative music! thanks

Any chance I could get a copy of this max patch?  I saw the youtube video a few days ago, managed to stumble across this thread in the forum, but it appears that the patch isn't on the site any more.  I would appreciate it very much as I'm interested in doing something similar but in the field of generative music! thanks


Piano with Electronics (Max/MSP with IcubeX + sensors)