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					<title><![CDATA[picture and bpatcher overlapping issues]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 13:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Roman Thilenius</dc:creator>

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						<p>once more i´ve run into a situation where OSX differs from OS 9.</p>
<p>i am script-creating and script-deleting a background-picture (using<br />
the picture object) in a patch which has visible bpatchers and some<br />
regular objectboxes in it.</p>
<p>in OS 9 the scrript does the following:</p>
<p>1. deletes the picture, in case there still is one.</p>
<p>2. creates the picture</p>
<p>3. puts the picture to background</p>
<p>after the script has been triggered, i send a refresh message to max in order to<br />
get rid of the &#8211; more or less natural &#8211; drawing problems.</p>
<p>the refresh message happens right after creating and moving the picture to<br />
background via [t b b]</p>
<p>in max 4.6 OSX this does not work &#8230; the refresh message seems to vanish,<br />
only when you trigger it manually, the diplay errors disappear and the desired<br />
state of the patch is reached.</p>
<p>strange enough, in max v5 my 4.1 code works perfectly (it is even smoother than in<br />
4.1) &#8211; just not in 4.6.</p>
<p>i am not asking a for a solution for such strange requests of mine, but how come<br />
that a message from a t b b obviously vanishes in max 4.6, but works in max 4.1?</p>
<p>shouldnt scripting a picture object be identically in these two versions of the runtime?</p>
<p>-110</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: picture and bpatcher overlapping issues]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>jvkr</dc:creator>

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						<p>Forgive me for asking the obvious: deferlow?</p>
<p>_<br />
johan</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: picture and bpatcher overlapping issues]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Roman Thilenius</dc:creator>

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						<p>i could try that. </p>
<p>the three or four classic users need to install a deferlow dummy then, but it could work.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: picture and bpatcher overlapping issues]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>jvkr</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hmm, that&#8217;s a real dilemma. But did qmetro exist back then?</p>
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<p>-<br />
johan</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: picture and bpatcher overlapping issues]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Roman Thilenius</dc:creator>

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						<p>nope.</p>
<p>but i can just do t b b b with one more b, one for refreshing normal and one for refreshing with deferlow.<br />
that will exactly work and doesnt even trigger double in classic, where the deferlow object is out of order.</p>
<p>i have yet to test if it help.</p>
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