a.balley

I'm trying to build a pluggo that receives OSC from a Lemur, 

processes the data and outputs MIDI. I'm having trouble getting 

anything out of it in Logic, using the plugmidiout object.

I alos tried to forward MIDI data to a IAC port by using midiout 

Hi all,
I'm trying to build a pluggo that receives OSC from a Lemur,  
processes the data and outputs MIDI. I'm having trouble getting  
anything out of it in Logic, using the plugmidiout object.
I alos tried to forward MIDI data to a IAC port by using midiout  
instead of plugmidiout, to no avail.

-- 
Axel Balley
Jazzmutant
www.jazzmutant.com


plugmidiout-and-logic-pro-7-2

I've never been able to build a plugin which outputs MIDI in Logic. As far as I know they don't support it. I would dearly love to be wrong.

Plugmidiout in Pluggo works fine in the other apps which do support it, but it seems to be a bit of a lottery host-wise.

If anyone has more detailed information about this, or just knows where it is ion the Logic manual even, please let me know.

On Aug 31, 2006, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Pask wrote:

> I've never been able to build a plugin which outputs MIDI in Logic. 

> As far as I know they don't support it. I would dearly love to be 

> I've never been able to build a plugin which outputs MIDI in Logic.  
> As far as I know they don't support it. I would dearly love to be  
> wrong.

Maybe the AU implementation doesn't allow MIDI

Maybe the AU implementation doesn't allow MIDI
> output from a pluggo ?

Unfortunately, it is a limitation of the AudioUnit standard. Perhaps we 

can look at a workaround for this feature for a future release.

Unfortunately, it is a limitation of the AudioUnit standard.  Perhaps we 
can look at a workaround for this feature for a future release.

I'd like to also say that the AudioUnit thing seems to be a limitation of the AudioUnit. When I was doing some programming with CoreAudio I found this.

However, you can publish your own midi ins and outs from within a plugin (talking coremidi here), but there seems to not be a standard.

When I load my plugin inside of digital performer, I see a fromMaxMSP-1 and fromMaxMSP-2 listen as MIDI sources. Can I somehow route midi from inside a plugin to these?

I'd like to also say that the AudioUnit thing seems to be a limitation of the AudioUnit.  When I was doing some programming with CoreAudio I found this.

When I load my plugin inside of digital performer, I see a fromMaxMSP-1 and fromMaxMSP-2 listen as MIDI sources.  Can I somehow route midi from inside a plugin to these?


the from/toMaxMSP was because I had Max open and it was seeing the midi from Max itself! So yeah, ignore that question.

Back on topic, why not have max publish the midi ports outside of [plugmidiout] or [midiout].

Why not create maybe a new object called [coremidiout] where Max actually publishes that output (or input) just like anyone using an AudioUnit now?

the from/toMaxMSP was because I had Max open and it was seeing the midi from Max itself!  So yeah, ignore that question.

Why not create maybe a new object called [coremidiout] where Max actually publishes that output (or input) just like anyone using an AudioUnit now?


I think Axel Balley has made one. Axel! How's that coming along?

It's a good idea, but one that C74 is not looking at right now.

> I just realized MIDI out doesn't work either in Live, when using the 

> pluggo as an AU. It does work by loading it as a VST.

> Could that be a clue ? Maybe the AU implementation doesn't allow MIDI 

the AU implementation does not allow MIDI from an _AU, that 

that there are many AU plug-ins out there which are able to

do it does not mean that this is thanks to apple.

> Why not create maybe a new object called [coremidiout] where 

> Max actually publishes that output (or input) just like 

pluggo runtime to coremidi port sounds like a lot of work.

dont forget that pluggo AUs are only wrapped VSTs, and that 

the VST versions would most likely have a plugmidioutobject

> I just realized MIDI out doesn't work either in Live, when using the  
> pluggo as an AU. It does work by loading it as a VST.
> Could that be a clue ? Maybe the AU implementation doesn't allow MIDI  
> output from a pluggo ?

the AU implementation does not allow MIDI from an _AU, that 
is the sad truth.

that there are many AU plug-ins out there which are able to
do it does not mean that this is thanks to apple.

grime wrote:
> Why not create maybe a new object called [coremidiout] where 
> Max actually publishes that output (or input) just like 
> anyone using an AudioUnit now?

pluggo runtime to coremidi port sounds like a lot of work.
dont forget that pluggo AUs are only wrapped VSTs, and that 
the VST versions would most likely have a plugmidioutobject
for the "VST version" of the pluggo. 
where is sophia when you need it.


plugmidiout and Logic Pro 7.2