tomgalileo

is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects argument 

i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd 

examples and in general...there are some examples patches provided 

and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters in 

is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in 

hello
is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects argument  
in max/msp?
i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd  
examples and in general...there are some examples patches provided  
with max/msp,
and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters in  
max/msp.
it's quite  long to figure it out.
is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in  
max/msp?
any help appreciated

pmpd-on-max-msp

I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, when given 

as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending the arguments with 

also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not work, 

so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.

there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it has 

> is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects argument in 

> i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd examples 

> and in general...there are some examples patches provided with max/msp,

> and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters in 

> is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in max/msp?

I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, when given 
as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending the arguments with 
loadmess or loadbang on startup.
also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not work, 
so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.
there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it has 
less features.
marius.

TomGalileo wrote:
> hello
> is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects argument in 
> max/msp?
> i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd examples 
> and in general...there are some examples patches provided with max/msp,
> and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters in 
> max/msp.
> it's quite  long to figure it out.
> is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in max/msp?
> any help appreciated
>
> regards
>
> tom
>


well..this is becoming a bit complicated i see...

shall we ask mathieu if he can do something for us?

On Mar 3, 2008, at 12:11 AM, marius schebella wrote:

> I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, when 

> given as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending the 

> arguments with loadmess or loadbang on startup.

> also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not 

> work, so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.

> there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it 

>> is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects 

>> i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd 

>> examples and in general...there are some examples patches provided 

>> and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters 

>> is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in 

oh thank you marius.
well..this is becoming a bit complicated i see...

> I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, when  
> given as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending the  
> arguments with loadmess or loadbang on startup.
> also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not  
> work, so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.
> there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it  
> has less features.
> marius.
>
> TomGalileo wrote:
>> hello
>> is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects  
>> argument in max/msp?
>> i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd  
>> examples and in general...there are some examples patches provided  
>> with max/msp,
>> and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters  
>> in max/msp.
>> it's quite  long to figure it out.
>> is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in  
>> max/msp?
>> any help appreciated
>> regards
>> tom
>


http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/~thomas/ext/msd/max

http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/~thomas/ext/beta/max

msd should run much faster, has a similar syntax, but does not have so 

many object classes. it is also possible to use a combination of msd and 

I used pmpd for two big projects, so it is stable, just documentation is 

> well..this is becoming a bit complicated i see...

> shall we ask mathieu if he can do something for us?

> On Mar 3, 2008, at 12:11 AM, marius schebella wrote:

>> I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, when 

>> given as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending the 

>> arguments with loadmess or loadbang on startup.

>> also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not work, 

>> so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.

>> there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it has 

>>> is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects argument 

>>> i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd 

>>> examples and in general...there are some examples patches provided 

>>> and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters in 

>>> is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in 

msd can be found at
http://nicomon.basseslumieres.org/
and/or
http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/~thomas/ext/msd/max
a beta version is here:
http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/~thomas/ext/beta/max
msd should run much faster, has a similar syntax, but does not have so 
many object classes. it is also possible to use a combination of msd and 
pmpd.
I used pmpd for two big projects, so it is stable, just documentation is 
unreliable :)
marius.

TomGalileo wrote:
> oh thank you marius.
> well..this is becoming a bit complicated i see...
>
> shall we ask mathieu if he can do something for us?
>
> ...
>
> cheers
>
> msd? do you mean mc.pmpd?
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2008, at 12:11 AM, marius schebella wrote:
>
>> I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, when 
>> given as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending the 
>> arguments with loadmess or loadbang on startup.
>> also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not work, 
>> so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.
>> there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it has 
>> less features.
>> marius.
>>
>> TomGalileo wrote:
>>> hello
>>> is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects argument 
>>> in max/msp?
>>> i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd 
>>> examples and in general...there are some examples patches provided 
>>> with max/msp,
>>> and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters in 
>>> max/msp.
>>> it's quite  long to figure it out.
>>> is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in 
>>> max/msp?
>>> any help appreciated
>>> regards
>>> tom
>>
>
>


im trying to write down a little "how to" on pmpd, at least for myself.

On Mar 3, 2008, at 1:04 AM, marius schebella wrote:

> msd should run much faster, has a similar syntax, but does not have 

> so many object classes. it is also possible to use a combination of 

> I used pmpd for two big projects, so it is stable, just 

>> well..this is becoming a bit complicated i see...

>> shall we ask mathieu if he can do something for us?

>> On Mar 3, 2008, at 12:11 AM, marius schebella wrote:

>>> I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, 

>>> when given as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending 

>>> the arguments with loadmess or loadbang on startup.

>>> also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not 

>>> work, so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.

>>> there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it 

>>>> is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects 

>>>> i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd 

>>>> examples and in general...there are some examples patches 

>>>> and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters 

>>>> is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used 

i start today
ill publish as it is finished

> msd can be found at
> http://nicomon.basseslumieres.org/
> and/or
> http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/~thomas/ext/msd/max
> a beta version is here:
> http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/~thomas/ext/beta/max
> msd should run much faster, has a similar syntax, but does not have  
> so many object classes. it is also possible to use a combination of  
> msd and pmpd.
> I used pmpd for two big projects, so it is stable, just  
> documentation is unreliable :)
> marius.
>
>
>
> TomGalileo wrote:
>> oh thank you marius.
>> well..this is becoming a bit complicated i see...
>> shall we ask mathieu if he can do something for us?
>> ...
>> cheers
>> msd? do you mean mc.pmpd?
>> On Mar 3, 2008, at 12:11 AM, marius schebella wrote:
>>> I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings,  
>>> when given as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending  
>>> the arguments with loadmess or loadbang on startup.
>>> also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not  
>>> work, so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.
>>> there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it  
>>> has less features.
>>> marius.
>>>
>>> TomGalileo wrote:
>>>> hello
>>>> is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects  
>>>> argument in max/msp?
>>>> i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd  
>>>> examples and in general...there are some examples patches  
>>>> provided with max/msp,
>>>> and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters  
>>>> in max/msp.
>>>> it's quite  long to figure it out.
>>>> is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used  
>>>> in max/msp?
>>>> any help appreciated
>>>> regards
>>>> tom
>>>
>


marius schebella wrote: I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, when given 

marius schebella  wrote: I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, when given 
as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending the arguments with 
loadmess or loadbang on startup.
also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not work, 
so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.
there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it has 
less features.
marius.

TomGalileo wrote:
> hello
> is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects argument in 
> max/msp?
> i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd examples 
> and in general...there are some examples patches provided with max/msp,
> and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters in 
> max/msp.
> it's quite  long to figure it out.
> is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in max/msp?
> any help appreciated
>
> regards
>
> tom
>

On Mar 3, 2008, at 4:57 PM, ronald alford wrote:

> as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending the arguments 

> also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not work,

> so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.

> there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it has

> > is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects 

> > i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd 

> > and in general...there are some examples patches provided with max/ 

> > and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters in

> > is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in 

> what, where is pmpd? what does it do?
>
> ron
>
> marius schebella  wrote:
> I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, when  
> given
> as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending the arguments  
> with
> loadmess or loadbang on startup.
> also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not work,
> so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.
> there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it has
> less features.
> marius.
>
> TomGalileo wrote:
> > hello
> > is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects  
> argument in
> > max/msp?
> > i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd  
> examples
> > and in general...there are some examples patches provided with max/ 
> msp,
> > and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters in
> > max/msp.
> > it's quite long to figure it out.
> > is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in  
> max/msp?
> > any help appreciated
> >
> > regards
> >
> > tom
> >
>
>

San Francisco, CA
Work: 857-544-3967
Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com
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pmpd is a collection of object for pd / max. These objects provide 

real-time simulations, specially physical behaviors. pmpd can be used to 

create natural dynamic systems, like a bouncing ball, string movement, 

Brownian movement, chaos, fluid dynamics, sand, gravitation, and more. 

It can also be used to create displacements thus allowing a completely 

> marius schebella wrote: I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, when given 

> as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending the arguments with 

> also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not work, 

> there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it has 

>> is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects argument in 

>> i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd examples 

>> and in general...there are some examples patches provided with max/msp,

>> and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters in 

>> is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in max/msp?

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://mathieuchamagne.com/max.htm
pmpd library Universal Binary
pmpd is a collection of object for pd / max. These objects provide 
real-time simulations, specially physical behaviors. pmpd can be used to 
create natural dynamic systems, like a bouncing ball, string movement, 
Brownian movement, chaos, fluid dynamics, sand, gravitation, and more. 
It can also be used to create displacements thus allowing a completely 
dynamic approach of pd computing.
m.

ronald alford wrote:
> what, where is pmpd? what does it do?
>
> ron
>
> marius schebella  wrote: I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, when given 
> as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending the arguments with 
> loadmess or loadbang on startup.
> also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not work, 
> so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.
> there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it has 
> less features.
> marius.
>
> TomGalileo wrote:
>> hello
>> is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects argument in 
>> max/msp?
>> i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd examples 
>> and in general...there are some examples patches provided with max/msp,
>> and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters in 
>> max/msp.
>> it's quite  long to figure it out.
>> is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used in max/msp?
>> any help appreciated
>>
>> regards
>>
>> tom
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>


On Mar 4, 2008, at 12:57 AM, ronald alford wrote:

> > and in general...there are some examples patches provided with 

> > is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used 

> what, where is pmpd? what does it do?
>
> ron
>
> marius schebella  wrote:
> I used pmpd in max and had the impression that some settings, when  
> given
> as arguments are just not working. I ended up sending the arguments  
> with
> loadmess or loadbang on startup.
> also the "name" argument, to automatically link objects does not work,
> so you have to use line connections or send/recieves.
> there is also a similar library (msd) if you want to try, but it has
> less features.
> marius.
>
> TomGalileo wrote:
> > hello
> > is there a way to have more information about pmpd objects  
> argument in
> > max/msp?
> > i have studied and learned the documentation that refers to pd  
> examples
> > and in general...there are some examples patches provided with  
> max/msp,
> > and it looks that there is a different way of putting parameters in
> > max/msp.
> > it's quite long to figure it out.
> > is there any doc related to arguments and parameters to be used  
> in max/msp?
> > any help appreciated
> >
> > regards
> >
> > tom
> >
>
>


i've tried installing the msd objects, and when i load up the

msd2D.help, i get a mess of missing objects that I can't find on

Anyone here have any suggestions on that?

(also, many of the gem references in the msd help files are missing

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:04 AM, marius schebella

> msd should run much faster, has a similar syntax, but does not have so

> many object classes. it is also possible to use a combination of msd and

> I used pmpd for two big projects, so it is stable, just documentation is

i've tried installing the msd objects, and when i load up the
msd2D.help, i get a mess of missing objects that I can't find on
maxobjects.com or elsewhere.

(also, many of the gem references in the msd help files are missing
the gem. prefix)

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:04 AM, marius schebella
 wrote:
> msd can be found at
>  http://nicomon.basseslumieres.org/
>  and/or
>  http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/~thomas/ext/msd/max
>  a beta version is here:
>  http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/~thomas/ext/beta/max
>  msd should run much faster, has a similar syntax, but does not have so
>  many object classes. it is also possible to use a combination of msd and
>  pmpd.
>  I used pmpd for two big projects, so it is stable, just documentation is
>  unreliable :)
>  marius.
>


a more recent version of my abstractions mc.PMPD : mc.PMPD_1.05

+ some example patches for PMPD & MSD I've made last year for a 

http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max/PMPD-MSD_patches.zip

In this package, the patch named "04.1 msd2D demo.pat" can be used as 

I just uploaded on my web page
http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max.htm (hit refresh in your browser !)
  a more recent version of my abstractions mc.PMPD : mc.PMPD_1.05
+ some example patches for PMPD & MSD I've made last year for a  
workshop : http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max/PMPD-MSD_patches.zip
In this package, the patch named "04.1 msd2D demo.pat" can be used as  
a kind of .help patch for MSD2D...

________________
Mathieu Chamagne
mathieu.chamagne@free.fr

http://mathieuchamagne.com
http://www.maxobjects.com

i'm going through the PD msd patches and trying to recreate them in a

more max friendly fashion. If i feel its at a point worth sharing

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM, mathieu.chamagne@gmail.com

> a more recent version of my abstractions mc.PMPD : mc.PMPD_1.05

> + some example patches for PMPD & MSD I've made last year for a workshop :

> In this package, the patch named "04.1 msd2D demo.pat" can be used as a kind

i'm going through the PD msd patches and trying to recreate them in a
more max friendly fashion.  If i feel its at a point worth sharing
i'll be sure to post.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM, mathieu.chamagne@gmail.com
 wrote:
> I just uploaded on my web page
> http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max.htm (hit refresh in your browser !)
>  a more recent version of my abstractions mc.PMPD : mc.PMPD_1.05
> + some example patches for PMPD & MSD I've made last year for a workshop :
> http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max/PMPD-MSD_patches.zip
> In this package, the patch named "04.1 msd2D demo.pat" can be used as a kind
> of .help patch for MSD2D...
>
>
> enjoy
>
> MathieU
>


On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:24 PM, mathieu.chamagne@gmail.com wrote:

> + some example patches for PMPD & MSD I've made last year for a 

> In this package, the patch named "04.1 msd2D demo.pat" can be used 

> I just uploaded on my web page
> http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max.htm (hit refresh in your browser !)
>  a more recent version of my abstractions mc.PMPD : mc.PMPD_1.05
> + some example patches for PMPD & MSD I've made last year for a  
> workshop : http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max/PMPD-MSD_patches.zip
> In this package, the patch named "04.1 msd2D demo.pat" can be used  
> as a kind of .help patch for MSD2D...
>
> enjoy
>
> MathieU
>
>
> ________________
> Mathieu Chamagne
> mathieu.chamagne@free.fr
>
> http://mathieuchamagne.com
> http://www.maxobjects.com
>
>
>
>


pmpd on max msp