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Pound-sign max ?

nicolas danet — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:00:18 +0000

Hey,

Somebody can confirm that the maximum number of pound-sign arguments is 9 [#1, ..., #9] ? I can not find anything about that in the documentation. Anybody have a link to such information ?

Re: Pound-sign max ?

spectro — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:09:28 +0000

Confirmed: try something like #11 as an argument – It won’t work as expected. FWIW I can’t find any point in the (Max6) documentation where this maximum (#9) is explicitly stated, but one way or another have been aware of this restriction for some time. This may be why in more recent Max versions it can be circumvented by use of either [patcherargs] or #0

Re: Pound-sign max ?

Patrick Delges — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:02:04 +0000

Although the good old Max4 documentation is generally more complete, it’s even not stated there (it is for $1-$2 arguments).
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Re: Pound-sign max ?

Peter Castine — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:15:34 +0000

There are one or two en passant mentions in the SDK documentation indicating that arguments are limited to “a dollar sign followed by a number 1-9.” Note that the pound sign in pound-sign arguments is, internally to Max, the same thing as a dollar sign.

I also recall reading somewhere in documentation (possibly an older version of Max, such as v2.2) that arguments could be “a pound sign followed by a digit.” Not a number, a digit. That rules out anything like #11, since the number eleven consists of TWO digits.

@Gregory (if you’re reading): this is one of those things that turns up on the list repeatedly, if not on a hyper-frequent basis. Still… any chance of seeing the user documents specifically addressing this? I’ve grepped unsuccessfully.

Re: Pound-sign max ?

nicolas danet — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:19:01 +0000

Hi,

Thanks Peter for your explanations.

“… this is one of those things that turns up on the list repeatedly …”

Nonetheless after 1/2 hour i did not find the info neither with cycling74 nor google search engine ;-)

Re: Pound-sign max ?

Roman Thilenius — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:29:20 +0000

http://cycling74.com/search-results/?q=arguments

Re: Pound-sign max ?

Roman Thilenius — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:30:47 +0000

it would belong here for example – but it is missing

http://www.cycling74.com/docs/max5/tutorials/max-tut/basicchapter15.html

Re: Pound-sign max ?

nicolas danet — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:40:07 +0000

Hi Roman,

Can you post the (exact) link where the maximum number of pound-sign arguments is mentionned ?

Re: Pound-sign max ?

nicolas danet — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:50:12 +0000

oops…

http://www.cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=19988

Thanks.

Re: Pound-sign max ?

Peter McCulloch — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:34:03 +0000

Having 11 arguments for an object is something that should IMHO be considered a “code smell”, since it’s unlikely that you would have that many arguments and that their order matters. (yes, there are objects that do accept more arguments, e.g. sel 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10, but that also is a sign usually that something is dubious…)

If you have a lot of parameters, I’d recommend using annotations. They’re a lot more flexible. Check out the patcherargs object for more help.

Re: Pound-sign max ?

nicolas danet — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:16:37 +0000

Hi Peter,

To be honest, it is my opinion too ; but it was just a question in the french forum http://codelab.fr/ that i wanted to confirm ;-)

Thanks.