pow vs pow~

Dec 22, 2010 at 2:03pm

pow vs pow~

is it just me that is irritated by the fact that pow and pow~ have their inlet inversed?

#54066
Dec 22, 2010 at 3:18pm

yes

#194570
Dec 22, 2010 at 3:28pm

It’s tempting to [mis]quote Ralph Waldo Emerson on consistency.

Yes, there are lots of things where one could wish Max/MSP were more consistent about. This is one of them.

#194571
Dec 22, 2010 at 3:34pm

agreed

#194572
Dec 22, 2010 at 5:25pm

it is less confusing than cos and cos~.

#194573
Dec 23, 2010 at 10:05am

the reason i said “yes”, is because it has taken me years to learn all the inconsistencies! so i come to appreciate them like a small reminder of my knowledge gathering efforts!

#194574
Dec 23, 2010 at 11:02am

what I like about max is that after 18 years of power-using it, you are still humbled by stupid things like this.

anyway, it takes less long for me to sort them that 18 years ago ;-)

p

#194575
Dec 24, 2010 at 9:43am

Other inconsistencies :
To open a soundfile with sfplay~, send the message “open”.
Now send the same message to a buffer~, the waveform window opens while read/replace/import opens a sound.

You can send a list of pairs of time/destination to line~ while line accepts only one.

(to be continued)

Removing some inconsistencies would be a nice goal for Max 6.

#194576
Dec 24, 2010 at 10:40am

worst of all is [gate].

#194577
Dec 24, 2010 at 11:37am

oh no roman, i love the gate one, it makes me smile!

roald i know it is not the point, but i stumbled across a lovely little line abstraction recently…

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  1. giriline.zip
#194578
Dec 24, 2010 at 11:40am

“To open a soundfile with sfplay~, send the message “open”.
Now send the same message to a buffer~, the waveform window opens while read/replace/import opens a sound.”

hahaha, yes, that one is one of the silliest…. i was tutoring several people back in school, everyone who starts Max seems to run into that same stupid-ass inconsistency.
but Hey! being inconsistent is what Max is known for!

IF YOU EVER HAD A LIFE, YOU LOST IT WHEN YOU BEGAN TO LEARN MAX.
It’s a bit like learning pig-latin, you can get good at the elite sounding code-words all you’d like, at the end you’re still unnecessarily ornamenting a plain language and sounding stupid as fuck while you’re at it.
(oh sorry, bad day Maxing today, Max is ruining my XMas, it’s ok, though, it ruined last year’s and the year’s before that, too, so i’m used to it: hey, shit happens, especially when you’re using Max! somehow… i still choose to use it with verve. That’s right! you heard me, “WITH VERVE!”)

(oh man, dark humor really gets lost in translation when you’re communicating in text, eh? ;p )

#194579
Dec 24, 2010 at 11:07pm

(hahahahahaha, rajadada tumar matha caraf?)

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#194580
Dec 25, 2010 at 2:29pm

i dont understand why you call it inconsistent that sfplay uses “open” for
something else than buffer.

buffer, vst, and patcher have a window, and sfplay does not have a window,
so why not use the “open” message for opening a file?

i find the “plug” message for vst or the inlet order of gate for more weird.

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