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Presentation Mode Question

April 24, 2008 | 12:46 am

What If I want a Panel (or anything) to be visible in Presentation mode , but not in patcher mode? Right now I am dragging those things off to the side in patcher mode. Sometimes you use things to make the interface pretty, but just get in the way for actual coding…Am I missing something obvious?

m


April 24, 2008 | 1:07 am

There are two different sizes involved. You can make the panel really small in edit mode.


April 24, 2008 | 1:09 am

Yeah I know that, just didn’t know if there was another way. Thanks!


April 24, 2008 | 1:24 am

At 8:46 PM -0400 4/23/08, marcos wrote:
>What If I want a Panel (or anything) to be visible in Presentation
>mode , but not in patcher mode? Right now I am dragging those things
>off to the side in patcher mode. Sometimes you use things to make
>the interface pretty, but just get in the way for actual coding…Am
>I missing something obvious?

You may not have realized yet that objects don’t need to be the same
*size* in presentation mode versus patching mode. So that large
panel that you want in presentation mode can be made extremely small
and tucked away on the side somewhere while in patcher mode.

As a good example, take a look at the X.FM~ patch, in Extras/Examples
Overview – look at in its native presentation mode, then toggle into
patcher mode and see what happens.

Dan

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April 24, 2008 | 1:52 am

Is there a keyboard shortcut to go in and out of Presentation Mode? Seems like something that would be important. I know I’m missing it (assuming it doesn’t exist).



Dan
April 24, 2008 | 2:47 am

> Is there a keyboard shortcut to go in and out of Presentation Mode?
> Seems like something that would be important. I know I’m missing it
> (assuming it doesn’t exist).

Make it yourself. System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Keyboard
Shortcuts, then hit the + sign to add it. ;)

d


April 24, 2008 | 3:10 am

There’s a file, called maxinterface.json, which defines the menus. If you’re careful you can change the Max interface pretty thoroughly.

It’s fairly easy to suss out what’s going on. It’s pretty easy to add key commands.

–C


April 24, 2008 | 8:32 am

Quote: Dan wrote on Wed, 23 April 2008 21:47
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> > Is there a keyboard shortcut to go in and out of Presentation Mode?
> > Seems like something that would be important. I know I’m missing it
> > (assuming it doesn’t exist).
>
> Make it yourself. System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Keyboard
> Shortcuts, then hit the + sign to add it. ;)
>
> d
>
>
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Wow I didn’t know about that functionality! Is that new with Leopard? Thanks for that Dan!



Dan
April 24, 2008 | 1:05 pm

>
> Wow I didn’t know about that functionality! Is that new with
> Leopard? Thanks for that Dan!

Nope, it was in Tiger at least. I use it all the time. For Max, I
would edit the JSON as Chris suggested — that way you won’t lose your
mappings if you trash your com.apple.* prefs or a system update does
it for you.


April 24, 2008 | 5:57 pm

Quote: Dan wrote on Thu, 24 April 2008 08:05
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> >
> > Wow I didn’t know about that functionality! Is that new with
> > Leopard? Thanks for that Dan!
>
>
>
> Nope, it was in Tiger at least. I use it all the time. For Max, I
> would edit the JSON as Chris suggested — that way you won’t lose your
> mappings if you trash your com.apple.* prefs or a system update does
> it for you.
>
>
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Well editing that file was almost as easy as doing it at the system level. Thanks again for the tips guys!


April 24, 2008 | 6:33 pm

On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:05 AM, Dan Winckler wrote:
> For Max, I would edit the JSON as Chris suggested — that way you
> won’t lose your mappings if you trash your com.apple.* prefs or a
> system update does it for you.

I would also keep a version of your edited file somewhere fairly safe.
For example, I have a file mymaxinterface.json that lives inside the
Max5 directory.

This way I can run a diff tool to reconcile changes between versions
of Max.

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com

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April 25, 2008 | 8:06 am

marcos schrieb:
> What If I want a Panel (or anything) to be visible in Presentation
> mode , but not in patcher mode? Right now I am dragging those things
> off to the side in patcher mode. Sometimes you use things to make the
> interface pretty, but just get in the way for actual coding…Am I
> missing something obvious?

This worked in the past already, include the panel in the background,
lock background… Then it doesn’t get too much in the way…
It was always a mystery for me why the help patches didn’t do that. It
makes copying parts of help patches a night mare…

Stefan


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April 25, 2008 | 8:10 am

David Huff schrieb:
> Is there a keyboard shortcut to go in and out of Presentation Mode?
> Seems like something that would be important. I know I’m missing it
> (assuming it doesn’t exist).

You can get into edit mode with a shortcut, but the better strategy now
is to open an extra view, one in presentation and one in patching mode.
All your changes will be reflected immediately…
This is cool, but you have to know about it… So much to learn…

Stefan


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