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I remember having this idea at university but I was never able to implement it.

Is there anyway you can "slide" between presets. The standard way the preset behaves is like an integer, is there anyway you can have the preset object behave like a floating point. i.e. memory one holds a value of 3, memory 2 holds a value of ten. Using a float, would you somehow be able to hover between the two.

I know you could use ramps or lines for parameter changes but that isnt exactly what i had in mind. Morphing is my aim.

preset-morphs

On 21 Nov 2008, at 12:11, wavecircle wrote:

> Is there anyway you can "slide" between presets.

The pattr machinery (which is much more robust than presets) allows 

The pattr machinery (which is much more robust than presets) allows  
morphing between settings.

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int.lib graphical preset interpolator/morpher (not currently Max5 compatible)

http://www.olilarkin.co.uk/index.php?p=max#il

http://www.olilarkin.co.uk/index.php?p=pmix

Quote: jeanfrancois.charles wrote on Fri, 21 November 2008 07:36

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> ...and also how to interpolate between any number of

> presets (like 30% of preset 1, 40% of preset 2, 30% of preset 12)

Really? I did not know you could do this. I thought you could only

interpolate between two presets. I would love to know how you 

can interp between multiple presets, can you please post

Quote: jeanfrancois.charles wrote on Fri, 21 November 2008 07:36
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> ...and also how to interpolate between any number of
> presets (like 30% of preset 1, 40% of preset 2, 30% of preset 12)
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Really? I did not know you could do this. I thought you could only
interpolate between two presets. I would love to know how you 
can interp between multiple presets, can you please post
and example.


Here is a good example the shows preset morphing and 

Here is a good example the shows preset morphing and 
different kinds of interpolation...

>Here is a good example the shows preset morphing and

arggghhhhhhh!! in max 4 please!!! (readable in 5!) or at least one or 

>Here is a good example the shows preset morphing and
>different kinds of interpolation...

arggghhhhhhh!! in max 4 please!!! (readable in 5!) or at least one or 
2 words of explaination

many thanks, but wasn't someone just sayin than you can interpolate 

between _3_ presets (40% of A 30% of B and 30% of Z) ??

I know how to interpolate between 2 (even non adjacent) presets, but 

how could you between 3 (or 4 which seems a little easier since you 

could use 2 axes, x & y, even if I don't know how to do it) ?

many thanks, but wasn't someone just sayin than you can interpolate 
between _3_ presets (40% of A 30% of B and 30% of Z) ??

I know how to interpolate between 2 (even non adjacent) presets, but 
how could you between 3 (or 4 which seems a little easier since you 
could use 2 axes, x & y, even if I don't know how to do it) ?

kasper
-- 
  Kasper T. Toeplitz
noise, composition, bass, computer
http://www.sleazeArt.com

the recallmulti message does what you are looking for

It too would like to know how to interpolate between 3 presets 

(40% of A 30% of B and 30% of Z) ?? pattrstorage help files do

It too would like to know how to interpolate between 3 presets 
(40% of A 30% of B and 30% of Z) ?? pattrstorage help files do
not seem to show how to do this.


Quote: oli larkin wrote on Fri, 21 November 2008 09:32

> the recallmulti message does what you are looking for

recallmulti: normalized-weight-pair [list] The word recallmulti, followed by at least 2 numeric arguments, permits weighted recall of multiple presets. Each argument determines the (normalized) weight of a particular preset in the final output. If the argument is an integer, the weight is 100%. If the argument is a floating point number, the integer part of the number determines the preset number, and the floating point part of the number determines the weight. For instance, recallmulti 1.3 2.3 5.4 would weight preset 1 at 30%, preset 2 at 30% and preset 5 at 40%. Since weights are normalized, the total weight can be higher than 100%; for instance, recallmulti 1.5 3.5 6.8 would calculate correct weights (27.77%, 27.77% and 44.44% respectively), and recallmulti 1 2 3, recallmulti 1.5 2.5 3.5 and recallmulti 1.99 2.99 3.99 all result in the same output (33.33% for each member).

Quote: oli larkin wrote on Fri, 21 November 2008 09:32
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> the recallmulti message does what you are looking for
>
> oli
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recallmulti: normalized-weight-pair [list] The word recallmulti, followed by at least 2 numeric arguments, permits weighted recall of multiple presets. Each argument determines the (normalized) weight of a particular preset in the final output. If the argument is an integer, the weight is 100%. If the argument is a floating point number, the integer part of the number determines the preset number, and the floating point part of the number determines the weight. For instance, recallmulti 1.3 2.3 5.4 would weight preset 1 at 30%, preset 2 at 30% and preset 5 at 40%. Since weights are normalized, the total weight can be higher than 100%; for instance, recallmulti 1.5 3.5 6.8 would calculate correct weights (27.77%, 27.77% and 44.44% respectively), and recallmulti 1 2 3, recallmulti 1.5 2.5 3.5 and recallmulti 1.99 2.99 3.99 all result in the same output (33.33% for each member).


>> the recallmulti message does what you are looking for

> recallmulti: normalized-weight-pair [list]

Yes, recallmulti (just back to my computer :)

>> the recallmulti message does what you are looking for
>> oli
>
> Ahhh there it is...
>
> recallmulti: normalized-weight-pair [list]

Yes, recallmulti (just back to my computer :)
Jean-Francois.

On Nov 21, 2008, at 7:16 AM, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:

> arggghhhhhhh!! in max 4 please!!! (readable in 5!) or at least one 

My advice is to get used to it. More and more advice is going to come 

Fredrik Olofsson's SuperCollider-based Max 5 to Max 4 conversion tool 

http://www.fredrikolofsson.com/pages/code-sc.html

> arggghhhhhhh!! in max 4 please!!! (readable in 5!) or at least one  
> or 2 words of explaination

My advice is to get used to it. More and more advice is going to come  
in the form of Max 5 patchers.

Fredrik Olofsson's SuperCollider-based Max 5 to Max 4 conversion tool  
is not too hard to use.
http://www.fredrikolofsson.com/pages/code-sc.html

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com	
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>On Nov 21, 2008, at 7:16 AM, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:

>>arggghhhhhhh!! in max 4 please!!! (readable in 5!) or at least one 

>My advice is to get used to it. More and more advice is going to 

>Fredrik Olofsson's SuperCollider-based Max 5 to Max 4 conversion 

but since max4 is readable in max5..............

(and did i not read somewhere that max 5 text-files will be human 

readable??? after years, a look at a simle max4 patch in text gives 

you an idea of (at least) the objects used in it - but looking at a 

max5 text.......... or maybe i am not THAT kind of human... !!!)

>On Nov 21, 2008, at 7:16 AM, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
>
>>arggghhhhhhh!! in max 4 please!!! (readable in 5!) or at least one 
>>or 2 words of explaination
>
>
>My advice is to get used to it. More and more advice is going to 
>come in the form of Max 5 patchers.
>
>Fredrik Olofsson's SuperCollider-based Max 5 to Max 4 conversion 
>tool is not too hard to use.
>http://www.fredrikolofsson.com/pages/code-sc.html

(and did i not read somewhere that max 5 text-files will be human 
readable??? after years, a look at a simle max4 patch in text gives 
you an idea of (at least) the objects used in it - but looking at a 
max5  text..........  or maybe i am not THAT kind of human... !!!)

On Nov 21, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:

>> On Nov 21, 2008, at 7:16 AM, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:

>>> arggghhhhhhh!! in max 4 please!!! (readable in 5!) or at least one 

>> My advice is to get used to it. More and more advice is going to 

>> Fredrik Olofsson's SuperCollider-based Max 5 to Max 4 conversion 

> but since max4 is readable in max5..............

Yeah, but at least for me, I generally post things when they're either 

simple enough for me to code up in a minute, or they are a close 

variation of something I have laying around. Things I have laying 

around are all in Max 5 for the last year or so. I generally have Max 

5 open, and I prefer it as an environment, so going back to Max 4 is 

not something that I choose to do too much. Plus, going back to Max 4 

means going to a different machine (or at least grabbing the iLok 

> (and did i not read somewhere that max 5 text-files will be human 

> readable??? after years, a look at a simle max4 patch in text gives 

> you an idea of (at least) the objects used in it - but looking at a 

> max5 text.......... or maybe i am not THAT kind of human... !!!)

Well, the compressed version that is used on the mailing list is only 

robot readable. The Max 5 file format itself (.maxpat) is considerably 

more human readable than the Max 4 format, IMO.

>> On Nov 21, 2008, at 7:16 AM, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
>>
>>> arggghhhhhhh!! in max 4 please!!! (readable in 5!) or at least one  
>>> or 2 words of explaination
>>
>>
>> My advice is to get used to it. More and more advice is going to  
>> come in the form of Max 5 patchers.
>>
>> Fredrik Olofsson's SuperCollider-based Max 5 to Max 4 conversion  
>> tool is not too hard to use.
>> http://www.fredrikolofsson.com/pages/code-sc.html
>
> sure sure
>
> but since max4 is readable in max5..............

Yeah, but at least for me, I generally post things when they're either  
simple enough for me to code up in a minute, or they are a close  
variation of something I have laying around. Things I have laying  
around are all in Max 5 for the last year or so. I generally have Max  
5 open, and I prefer it as an environment, so going back to Max 4 is  
not something that I choose to do too much. Plus, going back to Max 4  
means going to a different machine (or at least grabbing the iLok  
dongle off of that machine).

> (and did i not read somewhere that max 5 text-files will be human  
> readable??? after years, a look at a simle max4 patch in text gives  
> you an idea of (at least) the objects used in it - but looking at a  
> max5  text..........  or maybe i am not THAT kind of human... !!!)

Well, the compressed version that is used on the mailing list is only  
robot readable. The Max 5 file format itself (.maxpat) is considerably  
more human readable than the Max 4 format, IMO.

Quote: oli larkin wrote on Fri, 21 November 2008 06:28

> int.lib graphical preset interpolator/morpher (not currently Max5 compatible)

any timeframe for these objects to be max 5 compatible?

Quote: oli larkin wrote on Fri, 21 November 2008 06:28
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> int.lib graphical preset interpolator/morpher (not currently Max5 compatible)
>
> http://www.olilarkin.co.uk/index.php?p=max#il
>
> also see pMix, built with int.lib
>
> http://www.olilarkin.co.uk/index.php?p=pmix
>
>
> a bit of shameless self promotion :-)
>
> oli
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Thanks for these...

any timeframe for these objects to be max 5 compatible?


wow multirecall is an amazing feature! did'nt know it!..i would like to interpolate between 4 presets using a pictslider..i'm having some difficulties with scaling horizontal and vertical values..can someone show me how to do it... max 4 here

wow multirecall is an amazing feature! did'nt know it!..i would like to interpolate between 4 presets using a pictslider..i'm having some difficulties with scaling horizontal and vertical values..can someone show me how to do it... max 4 here
all the best
michele


> any timeframe for these objects to be max 5 compatible?

i have it almost ready, but there are still a few things not working. hopefully within a few weeks

Not sure if anyone if anyone mentioned this:

Its a little broken in 5 but usable for morphing multiple presets - check out the with-jit example as it seems to work the best

Preset morphs