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					<title><![CDATA[Presets in abstraction]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 22:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>gratkowski</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hi, is it possible to have different presets inside abstractions? Let&#8217;s say I have a fader in an abstraction and wan&#8217;t to store a preset value to it, but the preset should be changeable and only be for the particular instance of the abstraction I&#8217;m using in my patcher. Can I maybe use pattr for that?</p>
<p>best, </p>
<p>frank</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Presets in abstraction]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 00:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>

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						<p>hi frank,</p>
<p>you could achieve it like this:</p>
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<p>give your abstraction a unique argument when instantiating it. When you close the main patcher Max will write the presets into a file for each instance of the abstraction and reload the when loading again.</p>
<p>jan</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Presets in abstraction]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/presets-in-abstraction/#post-207578</link>
					<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 21:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>gratkowski</dc:creator>

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						<p>Thanks Jan, </p>
<p>is it possible to autosafe the preset file (best would be in the directory of the abstraction or the patcher)?</p>
<p>best, </p>
<p>Frank</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Presets in abstraction]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/presets-in-abstraction/#post-207579</link>
					<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>

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						<p>give the pattrstorage the attribute  &#8220;@savemode 3&#8243;. like this the file is save aromatically when closing the patcher. The first time a dialog will appear to chose the location.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Presets in abstraction]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/presets-in-abstraction/#post-207580</link>
					<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 05:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>MuShoo</dc:creator>

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						<p>A) I want to know how to save smelly files! :P<br />
B) I wish I&#8217;d had this little patch when I was making something along these lines, very helpful!  Pattr is still one of the more confusing aspects of Max (I put it right up there with Poly~).</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Presets in abstraction]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>gratkowski</dc:creator>

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						<p>Jan,<br />
thanks a lot.<br />
frank</p>
<p>p.s I assume there is no way to safe the file inside the patcher which uses the abstraction&#8230;.. but it would be nice though&#8230;</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Presets in abstraction]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/presets-in-abstraction/#post-207582</link>
					<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 19:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>

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						<p>hi frank,</p>
<p>indeed I can&#8217;t think about a straight forward way to save the files inside the patcher. </p>
<p>But you can gather the presets of all abstractions into one file:</p>
<p>Put a [pattrstorage] into your main patch and give it the argument &#8220;@greedy 1&#8243;. This will make all the [pattrstorage] objects in your abstractions and other subpatches visible to your [pattrstorage] object in the main patch.<br />
(in this case don&#8217;t use a savemode attribute in the [pattrstorage]s inside the abstraction).</p>
<p>Like this you can store presets that cover all the abstractions, but you can only store and recall them as one preset &#8211; not individually for each abstraction.</p>
<p>The only way that comes to my mind to save presets of abstractions inside your patch would be quite a hack (and not really slick&#8230;) you could read the values from your pattrstorage i.e. with &#8220;dump&#8221; and write them into a [coll] that is located in your main patch. to restore a preset you would need to go the same way backwards: read a set of values from your coll and send them via the pattrstorage back to the abstractions&#8230;</p>
<p>jan.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Presets in abstraction]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 19:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>

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						<p>Here is an example for the hack I tried to describe:</p>
<p>inside your abstraction use only pattr:</p>
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<p>Here is an example of a main patch that uses coll to save presets</p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 20:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>

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						<p>in case you were fast to read: just updated the 2nd patch (removing a small bug) &#8230;</p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 22:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>gratkowski</dc:creator>

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						<p>cool, thanks a lot</p>
<p>best,<br />
frank</p>
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