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Problem with audio cables turning into midi ones?

July 19, 2007 | 8:42 pm

I’m sending some audio data from three cycle~ objects into a subpatch
containing the scrub~ object from the percolate library. When I create the
cable from the inlet of the subpatch to the input of scrub~ everything is
fine; it turns into an audio cables. But, every time I open the patch again,
the cable has mysteriously turned into a midi cable, and no sound gets from
the cycle~ objects to the scrub~ in the subpatch; I have to delete and
recreate the cable each time.

Any ideas? Latest version of Max/MSP on Intel, OS X.latest.

Thanks,


J. Simon van der Walt —– Composer
< http://www.jsimonvanderwalt.com>


July 19, 2007 | 9:01 pm

Quote: j.simon wrote on Thu, 19 July 2007 22:42
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> I’m sending some audio data from three cycle~ objects into a subpatch
> containing the scrub~ object from the percolate library. When I create the
> cable from the inlet of the subpatch to the input of scrub~ everything is
> fine; it turns into an audio cables. But, every time I open the patch again,
> the cable has mysteriously turned into a midi cable,

So far this is a known problem. The connections should still work just fine, even though they are colored wrongly..

and no sound gets from
> the cycle~ objects to the scrub~ in the subpatch; I have to delete and
> recreate the cable each time.

.. so this is strange. Could you post a patch that demonstrates this problem?

Mattijs

>
> Any ideas? Latest version of Max/MSP on Intel, OS X.latest.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> —
> J. Simon van der Walt —– Composer
> < http://www.jsimonvanderwalt.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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July 19, 2007 | 11:47 pm

>I’m sending some audio data from three cycle~ objects into a subpatch
>containing the scrub~ object from the percolate library. When I create the
>cable from the inlet of the subpatch to the input of scrub~ everything is
>fine; it turns into an audio cables. But, every time I open the patch again,
>the cable has mysteriously turned into a midi cable, and no sound gets from
>the cycle~ objects to the scrub~ in the subpatch; I have to delete and
>recreate the cable each time.
>
>Any ideas? Latest version of Max/MSP on Intel, OS X.latest.

if by audio/midi you mean yellow/black and black, it does no
difference, really (only the look is different)

then if you say no sound travels through them it’s a different problem

best

kasper

Kasper T. Toeplitz
noise, composition, bass, computer

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July 20, 2007 | 4:32 am

Mattijs, Kasper,

Thanks for both sending (more or less) the same answer! You’re right, the
problem in my patch was elsewhere; I had a coll with data in it needed for
the patch to work, and I’d forgotted to tick ‘save with patch’. The wrongly
coloured cables led me astray, I thought that was the problem…

Cheers,

JS


July 20, 2007 | 8:51 am

Quote: j.simon wrote on Fri, 20 July 2007 06:32
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The wrongly
> coloured cables led me astray, I thought that was the problem…

Yeah, little glitches like this might seem harmless, the standard reply is ‘don’t worry, it’s not a real problem’. But they can cause a lot of confusion (= real debug time (= real money, in my case)).

Mattijs

>
> Cheers,
>
> JS
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>
>
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July 20, 2007 | 9:26 am

>Quote: j.simon wrote on Fri, 20 July 2007 06:32
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>The wrongly
>> coloured cables led me astray, I thought that was the problem…
>
>Yeah, little glitches like this might seem harmless, the standard
>reply is ‘don’t worry, it’s not a real problem’. But they can cause
>a lot of confusion (= real debug time (= real money, in my case)).

but it can be only due to the order of patching: if you patch a
simple sub-patch with just an in and an out – and line in between –
it has no way to know if it will be passing audio or control – and it
will be black. Connect an audio object on top, the lines patched
before will stay black

yes, harmelss

best

kasper


July 20, 2007 | 10:27 am

Quote: Kasper T Toeplitz wrote on Fri, 20 July 2007 11:26
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> but it can be only due to the order of patching: if you patch a
> simple sub-patch with just an in and an out – and line in between –
> it has no way to know if it will be passing audio or control – and it
> will be black. Connect an audio object on top, the lines patched
> before will stay black
>
> yes, harmelss

Umm, this is exactly the kind of reply that was criticizing 1 post ago. Or is it a joke?

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> best
>
> kasper
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July 20, 2007 | 12:44 pm

you could use a send~ receive~ pair
"for yellow cables"


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