justin

trying to build a patch where ubumenu or folder object displays a list of audio files (mp3, mp4, AIFF, Wave) which exist in a directory.

a seemingly simple task, which is being made obnoxiously difficult by problems with creator codes... it seems that lots of mp3 files on my HD seem to be lacking type and creator codes (reported as "none").

I have managed to track this problem using "FileUtilsCM" (

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/9104),

 which allows me to view and modify the file type and creator codes.

In Max, the file types i used to filter the results are:

"M4A ", "M4P ", MPG3, "MP3 ", "Mp3 ", MPEG, WAVE, AIFF

the problem is this patch is for a project where ppl can bring in their own audio files, so i cant manually modify the file type code so that it is recognised by max.

it's made more complicated because i am using jit.qt.movie and spigot~ to play the audio files, and this creates xml files in the same directory as the audio file... so i have to filter the results from ubumenu or folder so that it only lists audio files.

I have managed to track this problem using "FileUtilsCM" (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/9104), which allows me to view and modify the file type and creator codes.

In Max, the file types i used to filter the results are:
"M4A ", "M4P ", MPG3, "MP3 ", "Mp3 ", MPEG, WAVE, AIFF

problem-with-file-type-creator-and-ubumenu-folder-2

no, i think the point was that mp3's don't always have the same creator code, or any creator code. 

i spent some time on this in the past, and was unsuccessful, so i feel your pain justin.

the solution would be to filter by extension, instead of creator code but ubumenu doesn't do that.

thankfully we have javascript for this kind of crap.

check out jsfolderiter-example in the examples/javascript/file folder.

no, i think the point was that mp3's don't always have the same creator code, or any creator code. 
i spent some time on this in the past, and was unsuccessful, so i feel your pain justin.

the solution would be to filter by extension, instead of creator code but ubumenu doesn't do that.
thankfully we have javascript for this kind of crap.
check out jsfolderiter-example in the examples/javascript/file folder.
-rob


Quote: robtherich wrote on Sat, 08 March 2008 17:16

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> no, i think the point was that mp3's don't always have the same creator code, or any creator code. 

> i spent some time on this in the past, and was unsuccessful, so i feel your pain justin.

> the solution would be to filter by extension, instead of creator code but ubumenu doesn't do that.

> thankfully we have javascript for this kind of crap.

> check out jsfolderiter-example in the examples/javascript/file folder.

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i have spent too much time to get my head round this... seems the mp3 file type issue is more an osx problem, possibly tied to downloaded files (?) ...

but the pain boredom threshold is too much, so thanks for the javascript tip. i was also looking at jeremy's filetype external (

http://www.bootsquad.com/old_site/code/code.html)

 to filter by extension, the weird thing is even if u remove the extension from the filename it still seems to work?

Quote: robtherich wrote on Sat, 08 March 2008 17:16
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> no, i think the point was that mp3's don't always have the same creator code, or any creator code. 
> i spent some time on this in the past, and was unsuccessful, so i feel your pain justin.
>
> the solution would be to filter by extension, instead of creator code but ubumenu doesn't do that.
> thankfully we have javascript for this kind of crap.
> check out jsfolderiter-example in the examples/javascript/file folder.
> -rob
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but the pain boredom threshold is too much, so thanks for the javascript tip. i was also looking at jeremy's filetype external (http://www.bootsquad.com/old_site/code/code.html) to filter by extension, the weird thing is even if u remove the extension from the filename it still seems to work?

> i have spent too much time to get my head round this... seems the mp3 

> file type issue is more an osx problem, possibly tied to downloaded 

> but the pain boredom threshold is too much, so thanks for the 

> javascript tip. i was also looking at jeremy's filetype external 

> extension, the weird thing is even if u remove the extension from the 

The file type/file extention thing is very confusing on OS X IMHO. 

There is a easy solution for max though: just add a line to 

max-fileformats.txt in init folder that maps the .mp3 extention to "MP3 

Am 09.03.2008 um 12:52 schrieb justin:
>
> i have spent too much time to get my head round this... seems the mp3 
> file type issue is more an osx problem, possibly tied to downloaded 
> files (?) ...
>
> but the pain boredom threshold is too much, so thanks for the 
> javascript tip. i was also looking at jeremy's filetype external 
> (http://www.bootsquad.com/old_site/code/code.html) to filter by 
> extension, the weird thing is even if u remove the extension from the 
> filename it still seems to work?

The file type/file extention thing is very confusing on OS X IMHO. 
There is a easy solution for max though: just add a line to 
max-fileformats.txt in init folder that maps the .mp3 extention to "MP3 
" filetype.
cheers, g.


i have never had this problem with wave and aiff files, only mp3.

never had an issue with live, but i dont use mp3's.

as i mentioned in first post, using "FileUtilsCM" (

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/9104)

 to modify file type might solve the problem... but for what i'm doing this solution isnt possible.

out of interest what osx are u running, i'm using tiger +latest QT, but maybe leopard handles things differently? also some of the recent QT updates have been dodgy (see macfixit), and have included some DRM stuff for apple TV...

also, i tried to find the post (buffer pattr and wave files [message #132683]) but to no avail.

i'm pretty sure filtering by extension will work fine, it just means extra work which i could do without...

i have never had this problem with wave and aiff files, only mp3.
never had an issue with live, but i dont use mp3's.

as i mentioned in first post, using "FileUtilsCM" (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/9104) to modify file type might solve the problem... but for what i'm doing this solution isnt possible.

Quote: grg wrote on Sun, 09 March 2008 14:21

> The file type/file extention thing is very confusing on OS X IMHO. 

> There is a easy solution for max though: just add a line to 

> max-fileformats.txt in init folder that maps the .mp3 extention to "MP3 

only thing is mp3 and mp4 have a few different file type codes, so i presume i just add another line for each creator code... as with the AIFF / AIF extension.

also some of the codes have 3 characters and a space character at the end, i presume that putting those in between quotes will deal with that?

btw, i'm not interested in sd2, only the most common audio formats.

thanks for help, this appears to have sorted the problem.

Quote: grg wrote on Sun, 09 March 2008 14:21
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> The file type/file extention thing is very confusing on OS X IMHO. 
> There is a easy solution for max though: just add a line to 
> max-fileformats.txt in init folder that maps the .mp3 extention to "MP3 
> " filetype.
> cheers, g.
>
>
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the file type codes i'm aware of are:
"M4A ", "M4P ", MPG3, "MP3 ", "Mp3 ", MPEG, WAVE, AIFF

Is the filetype external available as universal binary?

problem with file type / creator and ubumenu / folder