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Hm, i'm quite sure it's my mistake, since i found nothing on this topic. I got the following problem: I built a couple of poly synths and always encountered the same issue, which is that sooner or later a note gets stuck, or i don't know how to say this in english. there seems to be a note off message missing.. Ok, these Synths are often driven by sequencers i also built, maybe there didn't come any noteoff message, which i actually don't believe. BUT i would be happy as god if the "allnotesoff" message would take any effect in such cases.?. I've also tried to send a "target 0" before that, which is kind of a tautology.. Don't know what to do. Do i maybe have to send this message to the "thispoly" objects within in the Poly~? Please give me a hint. Thank you a lot.

Hm, i'm quite sure it's my mistake, since i found nothing on this topic. I got the following problem: I built a couple of poly synths and always encountered the same issue, which is that sooner or later a note gets stuck, or i don't know how to say this in english. there seems to be a note off message missing.. Ok, these Synths are often driven by sequencers i also  built, maybe there didn't come any noteoff message, which i actually don't believe. BUT i would be happy as god if the "allnotesoff" message would take any effect in such cases.?. I've also tried to send a "target 0" before that, which is kind of a tautology.. Don't know what to do. Do i maybe have to send this message to the "thispoly" objects within in the Poly~? Please give me a hint. Thank you a lot.


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it really depends on how your poly works.

there are two things which sometimes come across each other, the volume envelope

i dont know how you normally make sure that a voice is turned off by a note off

message, but if it works for one voice, it [i]should[/i] work with "target 0", too.

however if you use note off messages to immediately turn the poly off, make

sure that the envelope are also reset or set to 0.

btw, where does your all notes off event comes from? all notes off is not the

same as sending a velocity 0 note to all 127*16 keys ... :) converting that to

"target 0, yourcustomcommand" seems the right approach.

there are two things which sometimes come across each other, the volume envelope
and the poly voice on/off status.

i dont know how you normally make sure that a voice is turned off by a note off
message, but if it works for one voice, it [i]should[/i] work with "target 0", too.

however if you use note off messages to immediately turn the poly off, make
sure that the envelope are also reset or set to 0.

btw, where does your all notes off event comes from? all notes off is not the
same as sending a velocity 0 note to all 127*16 keys ... :) converting that to
"target 0, yourcustomcommand" seems the right approach.


Usually i send for example "midinote 60 127" & "midinote 60 0" to play an intentionally not hanging(thanks:)) note. I also remember now that I've encountered this problem when using ableton as sequencer so the problem is quite certainly within my polys, which are mostly constructed very steretype like the example polysynth in the adsr-help patcher. hmm

This idea also came to me, maybe using an uzi object to send zero vellocities for all notes. But the existence of the "allnotesoff" message to poly~ makes me feel this is an unneccesary workaround.?

Or are you suggesting to send a zero to each volume adsr? wouldn't that let the problem with the automatic voice allocation be unsolved?

Thanks for the help.
Usually i send for example "midinote 60 127" & "midinote 60 0" to play an intentionally not hanging(thanks:)) note. I also remember now that I've encountered this problem when using ableton as sequencer so the problem is quite certainly within my polys, which are mostly constructed very steretype like the example polysynth in the adsr-help patcher. hmm
This idea also came to me, maybe using an uzi object to send zero vellocities for all notes. But the existence of the "allnotesoff" message to poly~ makes me feel this is an unneccesary workaround.?
Or are you suggesting to send a zero to each volume adsr? wouldn't that let the problem with the automatic voice allocation be unsolved?
Any further tips? Thanks!


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