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January 16, 2006 | 7:01 pm

hey everyone,
i’m new to this forum, new to Max/MSp and new to ProTools. So I hope you
wont mind me asking a simple question. I’m working with a few stand-alone
msp patches, simple things, yet I’m having great difficulty getting it to
talk to ProTools. I’ve gotten advice to use DirectConnect, but I heard this
was discontinued in PT after version 6.2? I’m working with 6.9 ReWire was
another suggestion, yet I can’t get it to recognize MSP. Does anyone know a
simple solution that is staring me in the face and I just can’t see it? Any
suggestions would be appreciated, as I’m having now to take the approach of
recording a realtime msp session in minidisc, then transferring into PT.
Thanks.
R Storm


January 16, 2006 | 7:36 pm

I have no experience with rewire but I’m sure you can write soundfiles
from maxmsp with [sfrecord~], and then import the files into ProTools. At
least it would be easier than the minidisc workaround.

/J


January 16, 2006 | 7:45 pm

Hi,
you can record directly in your patch with adoutput~ and sfrecord~ objects.

From the help of adoutput~ :
You can use adoutput~ to record the current audio output, or to feed it
back into your patcher. The output of adoutput~ is delayed by one signal
vector with respect to the actual output.

See the example in help.
Regards,
Chris


January 16, 2006 | 8:07 pm

Rewire is the way to go; check the Audio I/O section of the MSP Tutorials
and Topics.pdf DirectConnect died with OS9.
Afaicr it goes something like: launch your Max apps; select ad_rewire as
your audio driver. Launch PT, create a new track and select max/msp as the
input. Away you go.
If you really have trouble getting ReWire working then you can just record
everything from MSP to disc, either using the Quickrecord patch in the
extras menu or make your own with an sfrecord~ fed by an adouput~ .
That way you can at least avoid the horrors of ATRAC and SCMS ;-) Sorry, I
work with students editing to Minidisc and I have developed a deep mistrust
of the things,
Cheers
Roger


January 16, 2006 | 10:15 pm

what platform are you on? on osx, you can use jack and soundflower for
audio streams and iac or from/to max msp for midi…


January 16, 2006 | 11:06 pm

I haven’t looked at doing this for quite a while so I may be wrong, but I
don’t think max/msp can be a rewire slave, only master which means it won’t
work with Pro Tools. If you can build your patch as an RTAS plugs that’s
probably easiest.

epk


January 16, 2006 | 11:13 pm

IIRC the best way to handle the rewire input in Pro Tools is to set
up an Aux channel (or in PT7 an instrument channel) and use Max as an
insert. Then, bus that Aux to an audio channel and you should be
good to go.

Hope that helps.

- Keld


January 16, 2006 | 11:43 pm

MaxMSP is capable of being both ReWire client and host on both platforms with all compatible hosts and clients, including Protools

the rewire~ object allows for MaxMSP to act as a rewire mixer application (host), and ad_rewire in the sound driver selection menu in DSP Status allows MaxMSP to be used as a rewire client.

More info in the MSP docs….


January 17, 2006 | 10:52 pm

junior wrote:
> what platform are you on? on osx, you can use jack and soundflower for
> audio streams and iac or from/to max msp for midi…
> Op 16-jan-06 om 20:46 heeft Chris het volgende geschreven:

Jack and Soundflower talk to all audio programs but ProTools,
Dizzydesign still refuses to use common standards. Thats why this would
be no option. (Its a miracle that they considered to use rewire, as they
usually seem to believe ProTools is and should be the only program
anybody would ever use…)

Stefan

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January 18, 2006 | 12:23 am

how weird, so they make you use their propietary drivers? they’re even
worse then i thought…


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