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Quick Loading into jit.qt.movie

January 31, 2008 | 5:49 pm

Hello,
I’m loading 5 movies into 5 jit.qt.movies at the same time. I find that the loading time is to long (2 – 3 seconds)…
I’m trying to load the movies with the two usual techniques: using read-loadram to load only several frames (0 – 3); or preroll 1 with asyncread.
I start the 5 movies later and all at the same time.the movies are long, several minutes.
I’m using and imac and the HD is 5400 rpm, could I improve the loading using an external HD firewire 7200 rpm 16MB to read the movies?
Can anyone give me any tips on quick loading?.
Using latest MaxMspjitter/latest quicktime/imac intell 2GHz/2G ram/Windows XP SP2
Many thanks,
Felix



MJ
January 31, 2008 | 8:56 pm

create a ramdisk ?
dunno it thats possible in xp…

>Hello,
>I’m loading 5 movies into 5 jit.qt.movies at the same time. I find
>that the loading time is to long (2 – 3 seconds)…
>I’m trying to load the movies with the two usual techniques:
>using read-loadram to load only several frames (0 – 3); or preroll 1
>with asyncread.
>I start the 5 movies later and all at the same time.the movies are
>long, several minutes.
>I’m using and imac and the HD is 5400 rpm, could I improve the
>loading using an external HD firewire 7200 rpm 16MB to read the
>movies?
>Can anyone give me any tips on quick loading?.
>Using latest MaxMspjitter/latest quicktime/imac intell 2GHz/2G
>ram/Windows XP SP2
>Many thanks,
>Felix
>
>–
>Felix Luque
>http://www.othersounds.net
>felix@othersounds.net


January 31, 2008 | 9:09 pm

use poly for movies and load the movies with preroll and async read.
should be very fast, but you are limited by your disk.

Ramdisk is also an option on OS X, but unless you have LOTS of spare
ram, chances are you will swap to disk and any benefits of the ramdisk
will be lost.

On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:56 PM, MJ wrote:

> create a ramdisk ?
> dunno it thats possible in xp…
>
>> Hello,
>> I’m loading 5 movies into 5 jit.qt.movies at the same time. I find
>> that the loading time is to long (2 – 3 seconds)…
>> I’m trying to load the movies with the two usual techniques:
>> using read-loadram to load only several frames (0 – 3); or preroll
>> 1 with asyncread.
>> I start the 5 movies later and all at the same time.the movies are
>> long, several minutes.
>> I’m using and imac and the HD is 5400 rpm, could I improve
>> the loading using an external HD firewire 7200 rpm 16MB to read the
>> movies?
>> Can anyone give me any tips on quick loading?.
>> Using latest MaxMspjitter/latest quicktime/imac intell 2GHz/2G ram/
>> Windows XP SP2
>> Many thanks,
>> Felix
>>
>> –
>> Felix Luque
>> http://www.othersounds.net
>> felix@othersounds.net
>


February 1, 2008 | 8:42 am

Thanks MJ and Vade for the help!
The Ramdisk seems the quickest way, and it exist for Windows too, the problem is that I have to store 40 movies and only got 2G, I could go to 4G but it’s not enough. And I would like to have the movies after rebooting.
Vade, I don’t understand the advantage using the poly for movies here. If I understand well (and maybe I don’t get it), poly load several movies in different instances and it plays only one at each time switching between them. In my case I have to load them at the same time, wait and then play the 5 movies together, then load 5 other movies again and play them …and so on. So I should use five poly objects and load each movie in each poly. I’ll have five objects with one instance in each.
Do I get any benefit using this approach? I’m missing something about poly for movies?.
Thanks again,
F


February 1, 2008 | 3:30 pm

Hi,
well, let’s make a basic patch for testing so that you can correct me…
I get almost the same loading time for all these methods.
Maybe i’m doing something wrong …

max v2;
#N vpatcher 37 47 1079 748;
#P origin 0 5;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P comment 309 646 130 9109513 jit.qt.movie with preroll;
#P comment 288 430 115 9109513 jit.qt.movie with loadram;
#P comment 288 231 59 9109513 jit.qt.movie;
#P flonum 756 855 59 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P button 801 809 15 0;
#P button 756 809 15 0;
#N vpatcher 525 182 715 430;
#N comlet interval in ms is reported here;
#P outlet 66 173 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 96 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 96 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#P newex 66 143 27 9109513 – 0.;
#P newex 48 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 48 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#N comlet bang stops timing and reports interval;
#P inlet 96 58 15 0;
#N comlet bang starts timing interval;
#P inlet 48 58 15 0;
#P connect 0 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 5 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 7 0;
#P connect 2 0 4 1;
#P connect 1 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 5 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 756 830 55 9109513 p cputimer;
#P flonum 142 857 59 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P button 187 811 15 0;
#P button 142 811 15 0;
#N vpatcher 525 182 715 430;
#N comlet interval in ms is reported here;
#P outlet 66 173 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 96 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 96 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#P newex 66 143 27 9109513 – 0.;
#P newex 48 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 48 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#N comlet bang stops timing and reports interval;
#P inlet 96 58 15 0;
#N comlet bang starts timing interval;
#P inlet 48 58 15 0;
#P connect 0 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 5 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 7 0;
#P connect 2 0 4 1;
#P connect 1 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 5 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 142 832 55 9109513 p cputimer;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 665 758 146 9240586 jit.qt.movie @preroll 1;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 801 776 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 665 671 116 9109513 asyncread crashtest.mov;
#P newex 665 694 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 503 758 146 9240586 jit.qt.movie @preroll 1;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 638 775 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 503 672 131 9109513 asyncread countdown15.mov;
#P newex 503 696 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 348 758 146 9240586 jit.qt.movie @preroll 1;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 484 778 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 348 673 99 9109513 asyncread dozer.mov;
#P newex 348 696 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 199 758 146 9240586 jit.qt.movie @preroll 1;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 332 781 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 199 676 96 9109513 asyncread bball.mov;
#P newex 199 699 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 51 758 146 9240586 jit.qt.movie @preroll 1;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 187 783 54 9109513 select read;
#P button 10 620 15 0;
#P newex 10 646 27 9109513 t b b;
#P message 51 678 106 9109513 asyncread blading.mov;
#P newex 51 701 79 9109513 t b s;
#P flonum 703 642 59 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P button 748 596 15 0;
#P button 703 596 15 0;
#N vpatcher 525 182 715 430;
#N comlet interval in ms is reported here;
#P outlet 66 173 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 96 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 96 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#P newex 66 143 27 9109513 – 0.;
#P newex 48 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 48 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#N comlet bang stops timing and reports interval;
#P inlet 96 58 15 0;
#N comlet bang starts timing interval;
#P inlet 48 58 15 0;
#P connect 0 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 5 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 7 0;
#P connect 2 0 4 1;
#P connect 1 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 5 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 703 617 55 9109513 p cputimer;
#P flonum 105 644 59 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P button 150 598 15 0;
#P button 105 598 15 0;
#N vpatcher 525 182 715 430;
#N comlet interval in ms is reported here;
#P outlet 66 173 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 96 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 96 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#P newex 66 143 27 9109513 – 0.;
#P newex 48 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 48 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#N comlet bang stops timing and reports interval;
#P inlet 96 58 15 0;
#N comlet bang starts timing interval;
#P inlet 48 58 15 0;
#P connect 0 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 5 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 7 0;
#P connect 2 0 4 1;
#P connect 1 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 5 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 105 619 55 9109513 p cputimer;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 648 538 113 9240586 jit.qt.movie;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 748 563 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 648 503 57 9109513 loadram 1 2;
#P message 648 458 90 9109513 read crashtest.mov;
#P newex 648 481 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 486 540 113 9240586 jit.qt.movie;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 585 562 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 486 507 57 9109513 loadram 1 2;
#P message 486 459 105 9109513 read countdown15.mov;
#P newex 486 483 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 331 540 111 9240586 jit.qt.movie;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 431 565 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 331 507 57 9109513 loadram 1 2;
#P message 331 460 73 9109513 read dozer.mov;
#P newex 331 483 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 188 543 110 9240586 jit.qt.movie;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 288 568 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 188 510 57 9109513 loadram 1 2;
#P message 188 463 70 9109513 read bball.mov;
#P newex 188 486 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 50 545 109 9240586 jit.qt.movie;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 150 570 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 50 512 57 9109513 loadram 1 2;
#P button 9 407 15 0;
#P newex 9 433 27 9109513 t b b;
#P message 50 465 80 9109513 read blading.mov;
#P newex 50 488 79 9109513 t b s;
#P flonum 709 423 59 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P button 754 377 15 0;
#P button 709 377 15 0;
#N vpatcher 525 182 715 430;
#N comlet interval in ms is reported here;
#P outlet 66 173 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 96 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 96 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#P newex 66 143 27 9109513 – 0.;
#P newex 48 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 48 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#N comlet bang stops timing and reports interval;
#P inlet 96 58 15 0;
#N comlet bang starts timing interval;
#P inlet 48 58 15 0;
#P connect 0 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 5 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 7 0;
#P connect 2 0 4 1;
#P connect 1 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 5 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 709 398 55 9109513 p cputimer;
#P flonum 111 425 59 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P button 156 379 15 0;
#P button 111 379 15 0;
#N vpatcher 525 182 715 430;
#N comlet interval in ms is reported here;
#P outlet 66 173 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 96 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 96 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#P newex 66 143 27 9109513 – 0.;
#P newex 48 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 48 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#N comlet bang stops timing and reports interval;
#P inlet 96 58 15 0;
#N comlet bang starts timing interval;
#P inlet 48 58 15 0;
#P connect 0 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 5 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 7 0;
#P connect 2 0 4 1;
#P connect 1 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 5 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 111 400 55 9109513 p cputimer;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 653 319 111 9240586 jit.qt.movie;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 754 344 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 654 263 90 9109513 read crashtest.mov;
#P newex 654 286 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 492 321 109 9240586 jit.qt.movie;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 591 343 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 492 264 105 9109513 read countdown15.mov;
#P newex 492 288 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 337 321 110 9240586 jit.qt.movie;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 437 346 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 337 265 73 9109513 read dozer.mov;
#P newex 337 288 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 194 324 110 9240586 jit.qt.movie;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 294 349 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 194 268 70 9109513 read bball.mov;
#P newex 194 291 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 56 326 110 9240586 jit.qt.movie;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 156 351 54 9109513 select read;
#P button 15 212 15 0;
#P newex 15 238 27 9109513 t b b;
#P message 56 270 80 9109513 read blading.mov;
#P newex 56 293 79 9109513 t b s;
#P flonum 717 236 59 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P button 762 190 15 0;
#P button 717 190 15 0;
#N vpatcher 525 182 715 430;
#N comlet interval in ms is reported here;
#P outlet 66 173 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 96 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 96 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#P newex 66 143 27 9109513 – 0.;
#P newex 48 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 48 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#N comlet bang stops timing and reports interval;
#P inlet 96 58 15 0;
#N comlet bang starts timing interval;
#P inlet 48 58 15 0;
#P connect 0 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 5 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 7 0;
#P connect 2 0 4 1;
#P connect 1 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 5 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 717 211 55 9109513 p cputimer;
#P flonum 119 238 59 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P button 164 192 15 0;
#P button 119 192 15 0;
#N vpatcher 525 182 715 430;
#N comlet interval in ms is reported here;
#P outlet 66 173 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 96 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 96 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#P newex 66 143 27 9109513 – 0.;
#P newex 48 82 13 9109513 b;
#P newex 48 104 46 9109513 cpuclock;
#N comlet bang stops timing and reports interval;
#P inlet 96 58 15 0;
#N comlet bang starts timing interval;
#P inlet 48 58 15 0;
#P connect 0 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 5 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 7 0;
#P connect 2 0 4 1;
#P connect 1 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 5 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 119 213 55 9109513 p cputimer;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 662 132 110 9240586 poly~ polymovie 1;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 762 157 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 662 99 57 9109513 loadram 0 4;
#P message 662 52 90 9109513 read crashtest.mov;
#P newex 662 75 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 500 134 110 9240586 poly~ polymovie 1;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 599 156 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 500 101 57 9109513 loadram 0 4;
#P message 500 53 105 9109513 read countdown15.mov;
#P newex 500 77 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 345 134 110 9240586 poly~ polymovie 1;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 445 159 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 345 101 57 9109513 loadram 0 4;
#P message 345 54 73 9109513 read dozer.mov;
#P newex 345 77 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 202 137 110 9240586 poly~ polymovie 1;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 302 162 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 202 104 57 9109513 loadram 0 4;
#P message 202 57 70 9109513 read bball.mov;
#P newex 202 80 79 9109513 t b s;
#P window setfont "Fixedwidth Serif" 10.;
#P newex 64 139 110 9240586 poly~ polymovie 1;
#B color 7;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 164 164 54 9109513 select read;
#P message 64 106 57 9109513 loadram 0 4;
#P button 23 1 15 0;
#P newex 23 27 27 9109513 t b b;
#P message 64 59 80 9109513 read blading.mov;
#P newex 64 82 79 9109513 t b s;
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#P connect 26 0 34 0;
#P connect 34 0 32 1;
#P connect 122 1 121 0;
#P connect 121 0 129 0;
#P connect 129 0 127 1;
#P pop;


February 3, 2008 | 7:05 pm

Hi, sorry for the spamming.
Maybe this observation is interesting for some of you…
Finally the problem I have with the loading time of movies is due to my Os setup, windows XP under bootcamp/Leopard. It seems that it takes ages for windows to access de HD.
When I do the same test (see patch in precedent message) with different OS setups I get an extremely different result.
WinXP/imac/Bootcam under Leopard: Time of loading around 3000ms
Leopard/Same Imac: Time of loading around 50 ms
WinXP/Vaio/Slower HD: Time of loading around 200 ms

… this is the first limit I find using MaxMspJitter with windows XP under bootcamp …

Felix


February 3, 2008 | 7:33 pm

Ah, Ive read about slow disk access in bootcamp.

this might be helpful – although this was an issue PREVIOUS to leopars
upgraded 10.5 drivers. Have you installed the bootcamp drivers that
come on the 10.5 DVD? If you installed bootcamp previously, you will
not have the latest bootcamp drivers from Apple.

http://macprojournal.com/xp.html

Good luck.

On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Felix wrote:

>
> Hi, sorry for the spamming.
> Maybe this observation is interesting for some of you…
> Finally the problem I have with the loading time of movies is due to
> my Os setup, windows XP under bootcamp/Leopard. It seems that it
> takes ages for windows to access de HD.
> When I do the same test (see patch in precedent message) with
> different OS setups I get an extremely different result.
> WinXP/imac/Bootcam under Leopard: Time of loading around 3000ms
> Leopard/Same Imac: Time of loading around 50 ms
> WinXP/Vaio/Slower HD: Time of loading around 200 ms
>
> … this is the first limit I find using MaxMspJitter with
> windows XP under bootcamp …
>
> Felix
>
> –
> Felix Luque
> http://www.othersounds.net
> felix@othersounds.net


February 3, 2008 | 7:39 pm

according to this
http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.24/24.02/VirtualizationBenchmark/
the file i/o isshould be samesame

On Feb 3, 2008 9:33 PM, vade wrote:

> Ah, Ive read about slow disk access in bootcamp.
>
> this might be helpful – although this was an issue PREVIOUS to leopars
> upgraded 10.5 drivers. Have you installed the bootcamp drivers that
> come on the 10.5 DVD? If you installed bootcamp previously, you will
> not have the latest bootcamp drivers from Apple.
>
> http://macprojournal.com/xp.html
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Felix wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi, sorry for the spamming.
> > Maybe this observation is interesting for some of you…
> > Finally the problem I have with the loading time of movies is due to
> > my Os setup, windows XP under bootcamp/Leopard. It seems that it
> > takes ages for windows to access de HD.
> > When I do the same test (see patch in precedent message) with
> > different OS setups I get an extremely different result.
> > WinXP/imac/Bootcam under Leopard: Time of loading around 3000ms
> > Leopard/Same Imac: Time of loading around 50 ms
> > WinXP/Vaio/Slower HD: Time of loading around 200 ms
> >
> > … this is the first limit I find using MaxMspJitter with
> > windows XP under bootcamp …
> >
> > Felix
> >
> > –
> > Felix Luque
> > http://www.othersounds.net
> > felix@othersounds.net
>
>


February 3, 2008 | 7:53 pm

key word: "should"

:)

It was very common when bootcamp initially came out for it to have
subpar performance in certain configs – sata disk IO being one of
those areas, 3gb /switch, etc. which is why I remembered :P Just
google "bootcamp sata" and you get results about performance issues.
With clean/newer installs it should not be an issue, but, theres that
‘should’ again :)

On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:39 PM, yair reshef wrote:

> according to this
> http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.24/24.02/VirtualizationBenchmark/
> the file i/o isshould be samesame
>
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2008 9:33 PM, vade wrote:
> Ah, Ive read about slow disk access in bootcamp.
>
> this might be helpful – although this was an issue PREVIOUS to leopars
> upgraded 10.5 drivers. Have you installed the bootcamp drivers that
> come on the 10.5 DVD? If you installed bootcamp previously, you will
> not have the latest bootcamp drivers from Apple.
>
> http://macprojournal.com/xp.html
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Felix wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi, sorry for the spamming.
> > Maybe this observation is interesting for some of you…
> > Finally the problem I have with the loading time of movies is due to
> > my Os setup, windows XP under bootcamp/Leopard. It seems that it
> > takes ages for windows to access de HD.
> > When I do the same test (see patch in precedent message) with
> > different OS setups I get an extremely different result.
> > WinXP/imac/Bootcam under Leopard: Time of loading around 3000ms
> > Leopard/Same Imac: Time of loading around 50 ms
> > WinXP/Vaio/Slower HD: Time of loading around 200 ms
> >
> > … this is the first limit I find using MaxMspJitter with
> > windows XP under bootcamp …
> >
> > Felix
> >
> > –
> > Felix Luque
> > http://www.othersounds.net
> > felix@othersounds.net
>
>


February 3, 2008 | 8:24 pm

i’ve seen those crybaby threads. mac users are such drama queens….
when my day to switch comes, will i also turn into one? are’nt there any Man
carrying a mac?!

On Feb 3, 2008 9:53 PM, vade wrote:

> key word: "should"
> :)
>
> It was very common when bootcamp initially came out for it to have subpar
> performance in certain configs – sata disk IO being one of those areas, 3gb
> /switch, etc. which is why I remembered :P Just google "bootcamp sata" and
> you get results about performance issues. With clean/newer installs it
> should not be an issue, but, theres that ‘should’ again :)
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:39 PM, yair reshef wrote:
>
> according to this
>
> http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.24/24.02/VirtualizationBenchmark/
> the file i/o isshould be samesame
>
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2008 9:33 PM, vade wrote:
>
> > Ah, Ive read about slow disk access in bootcamp.
> >
> > this might be helpful – although this was an issue PREVIOUS to leopars
> > upgraded 10.5 drivers. Have you installed the bootcamp drivers that
> > come on the 10.5 DVD? If you installed bootcamp previously, you will
> > not have the latest bootcamp drivers from Apple.
> >
> > http://macprojournal.com/xp.html
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Felix wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi, sorry for the spamming.
> > > Maybe this observation is interesting for some of you…
> > > Finally the problem I have with the loading time of movies is due to
> > > my Os setup, windows XP under bootcamp/Leopard. It seems that it
> > > takes ages for windows to access de HD.
> > > When I do the same test (see patch in precedent message) with
> > > different OS setups I get an extremely different result.
> > > WinXP/imac/Bootcam under Leopard: Time of loading around 3000ms
> > > Leopard/Same Imac: Time of loading around 50 ms
> > > WinXP/Vaio/Slower HD: Time of loading around 200 ms
> > >
> > > … this is the first limit I find using MaxMspJitter with
> > > windows XP under bootcamp …
> > >
> > > Felix
> > >
> > > –
> > > Felix Luque
> > > http://www.othersounds.net
> > > felix@othersounds.net
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>


February 3, 2008 | 8:38 pm

yeah, man, it sure does suck to be used to reasonable performace from
our equipment. i’m such a little whiny girl.

On Feb 3, 2008, at 3:24 PM, yair reshef wrote:

> i’ve seen those crybaby threads. mac users are such drama queens….
> when my day to switch comes, will i also turn into one? are’nt there
> any Man carrying a mac?!
>
> On Feb 3, 2008 9:53 PM, vade wrote:
> key word: "should"
>
> :)
>
> It was very common when bootcamp initially came out for it to have
> subpar performance in certain configs – sata disk IO being one of
> those areas, 3gb /switch, etc. which is why I remembered :P Just
> google "bootcamp sata" and you get results about performance issues.
> With clean/newer installs it should not be an issue, but, theres
> that ‘should’ again :)
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:39 PM, yair reshef wrote:
>
>> according to this
>> http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.24/24.02/VirtualizationBenchmark/
>> the file i/o isshould be samesame
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2008 9:33 PM, vade
wrote:
>> Ah, Ive read about slow disk access in bootcamp.
>>
>> this might be helpful – although this was an issue PREVIOUS to
>> leopars
>> upgraded 10.5 drivers. Have you installed the bootcamp drivers that
>> come on the 10.5 DVD? If you installed bootcamp previously, you will
>> not have the latest bootcamp drivers from Apple.
>>
>> http://macprojournal.com/xp.html
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Felix wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hi, sorry for the spamming.
>> > Maybe this observation is interesting for some of you…
>> > Finally the problem I have with the loading time of movies is due
>> to
>> > my Os setup, windows XP under bootcamp/Leopard. It seems that it
>> > takes ages for windows to access de HD.
>> > When I do the same test (see patch in precedent message) with
>> > different OS setups I get an extremely different result.
>> > WinXP/imac/Bootcam under Leopard: Time of loading around 3000ms
>> > Leopard/Same Imac: Time of loading around 50 ms
>> > WinXP/Vaio/Slower HD: Time of loading around 200 ms
>> >
>> > … this is the first limit I find using MaxMspJitter with
>> > windows XP under bootcamp …
>> >
>> > Felix
>> >
>> > –
>> > Felix Luque
>> > http://www.othersounds.net
>> > felix@othersounds.net
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


February 3, 2008 | 10:45 pm

Uh. alt.fanboy is over there -> go have fun with your ‘real men’.

On Feb 3, 2008, at 3:24 PM, yair reshef wrote:

> i’ve seen those crybaby threads. mac users are such drama queens….
> when my day to switch comes, will i also turn into one? are’nt there
> any Man carrying a mac?!
>
> On Feb 3, 2008 9:53 PM, vade wrote:
> key word: "should"
>
> :)
>
> It was very common when bootcamp initially came out for it to have
> subpar performance in certain configs – sata disk IO being one of
> those areas, 3gb /switch, etc. which is why I remembered :P Just
> google "bootcamp sata" and you get results about performance issues.
> With clean/newer installs it should not be an issue, but, theres
> that ‘should’ again :)
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:39 PM, yair reshef wrote:
>
>> according to this
>> http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.24/24.02/VirtualizationBenchmark/
>> the file i/o isshould be samesame
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2008 9:33 PM, vade
wrote:
>> Ah, Ive read about slow disk access in bootcamp.
>>
>> this might be helpful – although this was an issue PREVIOUS to
>> leopars
>> upgraded 10.5 drivers. Have you installed the bootcamp drivers that
>> come on the 10.5 DVD? If you installed bootcamp previously, you will
>> not have the latest bootcamp drivers from Apple.
>>
>> http://macprojournal.com/xp.html
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Felix wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hi, sorry for the spamming.
>> > Maybe this observation is interesting for some of you…
>> > Finally the problem I have with the loading time of movies is due
>> to
>> > my Os setup, windows XP under bootcamp/Leopard. It seems that it
>> > takes ages for windows to access de HD.
>> > When I do the same test (see patch in precedent message) with
>> > different OS setups I get an extremely different result.
>> > WinXP/imac/Bootcam under Leopard: Time of loading around 3000ms
>> > Leopard/Same Imac: Time of loading around 50 ms
>> > WinXP/Vaio/Slower HD: Time of loading around 200 ms
>> >
>> > … this is the first limit I find using MaxMspJitter with
>> > windows XP under bootcamp …
>> >
>> > Felix
>> >
>> > –
>> > Felix Luque
>> > http://www.othersounds.net
>> > felix@othersounds.net
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


February 3, 2008 | 10:57 pm

ooo, touchy!

On Feb 4, 2008 12:45 AM, vade wrote:

> Uh. alt.fanboy is over there -> go have fun with your ‘real men’.
> On Feb 3, 2008, at 3:24 PM, yair reshef wrote:
>
> i’ve seen those crybaby threads. mac users are such drama queens….
> when my day to switch comes, will i also turn into one? are’nt there any
> Man carrying a mac?!
>
> On Feb 3, 2008 9:53 PM, vade wrote:
>
> > key word: "should"
> > :)
> >
> > It was very common when bootcamp initially came out for it to have
> > subpar performance in certain configs – sata disk IO being one of those
> > areas, 3gb /switch, etc. which is why I remembered :P Just google "bootcamp
> > sata" and you get results about performance issues. With clean/newer
> > installs it should not be an issue, but, theres that ‘should’ again :)
> >
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:39 PM, yair reshef wrote:
> >
> > according to this
> >
> > http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.24/24.02/VirtualizationBenchmark/
> > the file i/o isshould be samesame
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2008 9:33 PM, vade
wrote:
> >
> > > Ah, Ive read about slow disk access in bootcamp.
> > >
> > > this might be helpful – although this was an issue PREVIOUS to leopars
> > > upgraded 10.5 drivers. Have you installed the bootcamp drivers that
> > > come on the 10.5 DVD? If you installed bootcamp previously, you will
> > > not have the latest bootcamp drivers from Apple.
> > >
> > > http://macprojournal.com/xp.html
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Felix wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi, sorry for the spamming.
> > > > Maybe this observation is interesting for some of you…
> > > > Finally the problem I have with the loading time of movies is due to
> > > > my Os setup, windows XP under bootcamp/Leopard. It seems that it
> > > > takes ages for windows to access de HD.
> > > > When I do the same test (see patch in precedent message) with
> > > > different OS setups I get an extremely different result.
> > > > WinXP/imac/Bootcam under Leopard: Time of loading around 3000ms
> > > > Leopard/Same Imac: Time of loading around 50 ms
> > > > WinXP/Vaio/Slower HD: Time of loading around 200 ms
> > > >
> > > > … this is the first limit I find using MaxMspJitter with
> > > > windows XP under bootcamp …
> > > >
> > > > Felix
> > > >
> > > > –
> > > > Felix Luque
> > > > http://www.othersounds.net
> > > > felix@othersounds.net
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>


February 3, 2008 | 11:05 pm

ooo, trolly !

On Feb 3, 2008, at 5:57 PM, yair reshef wrote:

> ooo, touchy!
>
> On Feb 4, 2008 12:45 AM, vade wrote:
> Uh. alt.fanboy is over there -> go have fun with your ‘real men’.
>
> On Feb 3, 2008, at 3:24 PM, yair reshef wrote:
>
>> i’ve seen those crybaby threads. mac users are such drama queens….
>> when my day to switch comes, will i also turn into one? are’nt
>> there any Man carrying a mac?!
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2008 9:53 PM, vade
wrote:
>> key word: "should"
>>
>> :)
>>
>> It was very common when bootcamp initially came out for it to have
>> subpar performance in certain configs – sata disk IO being one of
>> those areas, 3gb /switch, etc. which is why I remembered :P Just
>> google "bootcamp sata" and you get results about performance
>> issues. With clean/newer installs it should not be an issue, but,
>> theres that ‘should’ again :)
>>
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:39 PM, yair reshef wrote:
>>
>>> according to this
>>> http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.24/24.02/VirtualizationBenchmark/
>>> the file i/o isshould be samesame
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2008 9:33 PM, vade
wrote:
>>> Ah, Ive read about slow disk access in bootcamp.
>>>
>>> this might be helpful – although this was an issue PREVIOUS to
>>> leopars
>>> upgraded 10.5 drivers. Have you installed the bootcamp drivers that
>>> come on the 10.5 DVD? If you installed bootcamp previously, you will
>>> not have the latest bootcamp drivers from Apple.
>>>
>>> http://macprojournal.com/xp.html
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Felix wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Hi, sorry for the spamming.
>>> > Maybe this observation is interesting for some of you…
>>> > Finally the problem I have with the loading time of movies is
>>> due to
>>> > my Os setup, windows XP under bootcamp/Leopard. It seems that it
>>> > takes ages for windows to access de HD.
>>> > When I do the same test (see patch in precedent message) with
>>> > different OS setups I get an extremely different result.
>>> > WinXP/imac/Bootcam under Leopard: Time of loading around 3000ms
>>> > Leopard/Same Imac: Time of loading around 50 ms
>>> > WinXP/Vaio/Slower HD: Time of loading around 200 ms
>>> >
>>> > … this is the first limit I find using MaxMspJitter with
>>> > windows XP under bootcamp …
>>> >
>>> > Felix
>>> >
>>> > –
>>> > Felix Luque
>>> > http://www.othersounds.net
>>> > felix@othersounds.net
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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