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re-download MAX-MSP JITTER after trial expires?

December 28, 2010 | 4:01 pm

Hello,
I recently downloaded max-msp jitter. It’s been 30 days and my trial expired. I want to keep learning and working with this amazing software for projects for school and tried re-downloading it after my trial expired, but it’s still showing up as expired and won’t work.

Is there a way that I can go around it and have it run on my computer again? I have a PC and soon I will also have a MAC… I did some research and found a "torrent", but it looks suspicious and I’m scared it’s just a hoax and it will give my computer a virus.

Please let me know, any help is greatly appreciated:
Val- finearts student :)


December 28, 2010 | 4:08 pm

If it were possible to endlessly download/run the demo version, then Cycling74 wouldn’t make very much money from their product at all, would they? I understand your frustration, just when Max gets interesting the trial expires. There are some very good student deals on the various versions of Max, and who knows, your uni may even contribute to the cost?

Never download torrents – home sewing is killing fashion!

Brendan


December 28, 2010 | 4:29 pm

Okay, Thanks Brendan! Unfortunately, max is around 7000$ so I won’t be getting it anytime soon :)

Val


December 28, 2010 | 4:39 pm

Hi Val
you can purchase a 9-month authorization of the full version of Max/MSP/Jitter for $59, see other offers here:

http://cycling74.com/shop/discounts/

Many of my colleagues use the free ‘sister’ version of Max, called PureData, which does pretty much everything MaxMSP does and you can get it here:

http://puredata.info/downloads

Hope this helps
Brendan



bdc
December 28, 2010 | 4:39 pm

A 9-month student license is $59.00. And the Canadian dollar is currently trading pretty close to par right now.

B

Edit > N00b beat me to it…


December 28, 2010 | 4:54 pm

Omg, thanks guys! I will definitely look into this.

Brendan – someone told me about pure data, but apparently it’s a lot more complex than max. Having no training whatsoever in programming, I don’t know if I’d be able to handle it, but I’ll definitely try it out :)


December 28, 2010 | 5:40 pm

At nearly all levels Pure Data and MaxMSP can be considered the same program: they are both graphical programming environments for processing digital audio (and graphics/video via GEM and Jitter respectively), developed at IRCAM, in conjunction with or exclusively by Miller Puckette.
(Don’t shoot me guys, this is a VERY general potted history).

Object names differ greatly, so you may have to learn these, but the basic concepts are the same. If someone told you PureData is more complex than MaxMSP…….they are simply wrong. And some people prefer the leaner, arguably more elegant GUI of PureData compared to Max5……….(can open – worms everywhere).

Brendan


December 28, 2010 | 5:49 pm

to reset the demo period there is only one option: reformat ALL your harddrives,
including external drives, usb sticks, and NAS as long they they were connected
during the demo period.

if you dont want to spend 7000 dollars for maxmsp i also have an advise for you:
dont buy from IRCAM!

-110


December 28, 2010 | 6:17 pm

Brendan,
I think he meant it’s easier to use. Like I said, I don’t have much experience in programming. Max has very nice and easy tutorials and everything is fairly easy to do for someone like me who’s just starting. I don’t know if it’s that way with pure data…
Roman,
I unfortunately don’t know much about computers so I don’t think I will try that. I’ll probably just end up messing up my computer if I do. But thanks for your help :).
V.



MIB
December 28, 2010 | 6:26 pm

not sure where the 7000$ is coming from: http://cycling74.com/shop/max/
right now Max/MSP/Jitter for 599$. And if you have a valid student ID it’s only 250$!!!! http://cycling74.com/shop/discounts/


December 28, 2010 | 6:28 pm

oh no! I meant 700$ sorry :S


December 28, 2010 | 6:39 pm

Hi Val
If you have spent 30 days with Max and picked up a ‘flavour’ of this type of programming style, then a quick glance at this highly approachable tutorial may very well convince you to take the PD route.

http://www.pd-tutorial.com/english/index.html

And remember, a few months with PD is better than a few months without Max; after which time you will have increased your programming skills and you will get SO much more in a shorter time from Max when you can afford it. Everybody wins!

Good luck
Brendan


December 28, 2010 | 6:45 pm

cool :) thanks!


December 28, 2010 | 6:46 pm

Still expensive for the poor artists, but in promotion today

Sale Price (download): $599.00


December 28, 2010 | 6:47 pm

lol artists aren’t all poor :P


December 28, 2010 | 6:47 pm

it’s true


December 28, 2010 | 6:50 pm

@moze J’ai consulté ton site web, ça l’air intéressant! J’aimerais travailler dans ce domaine quand je vais graduer


December 28, 2010 | 11:13 pm

valerie,
If you look for information on the materiel used for this kind of work, I can try to help you
je ne comprends pas le sens de "graduer"


December 28, 2010 | 11:45 pm

Audiomulch?


December 29, 2010 | 12:56 am

not everyone who is poor is an artist.

it also does not make you automatically an artist that noone understands you.


December 29, 2010 | 8:02 am

I did not say that everything the artists was poor, I said that it was necessary to take advantage of this good tool to propose less expensive at the moment, particulierement if we were not rich


December 31, 2010 | 10:00 am

@moze: graduer = version du Québec de l’américain "to graduate". En quelque sorte "finir ses études & recevoir son diplôme". Mais cela reste quasi-intraduisible.


January 1, 2011 | 5:32 pm

Well, I can imagine that approx. $700,- is a bit much to spend on a programming environment alone (not going to focus on the student discounts here since I’m not familiar with those).

So; for approx. $600,- you can have most of Max and a cool sequencer/DAW as well ;-)

I’m talking about the combination of Ableton Live and Max for Live. Don’t let the name ‘Max for Live’ fool you; although it is aimed at using within Live you can create full blown Max patches as well. These patches can then easily be used outside of Live using the freely available Max runtime.

There are a few caveats to be aware of though; not everything which Max supports is supported by Max for Live. The most obvious difference is that M4L does not allow you to create standalone applications. In other words; you will always need to have the Max runtime around whenever you’re using a patch outside of Live/M4L.

Another aspect is obviously; you cannot use Max without Live. It is Max for Live after all. So getting started with a Max session basically consists of starting Live, then pulling in a M4L device, click the edit button and then you have Max at your disposal.

But apart from that… I’ve been using this combination for 4 – 6 months myself and really liked working with in (then again, I’m also quite a Live fan). In the end I picked up on a Max/MSP license at first simply because I got a bit bored with having to wait for Live, then Max then Max again to start before I could do something. But that’s all it was; the functionality of M4L has never let me down!

Hope this may give you some ideas as well.


January 2, 2011 | 1:13 pm

merci (thank you) jean françois


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