Cycling 74 » Topic: Reliable delay http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/feed Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:45:51 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.2.4 http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-58886 <![CDATA[Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-58886 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:22:46 +0000 personal_username Hi all!
I’m trying to build a reliable delay, one that doesn’t use del @quantize, because I found them to be inconsistent with my patch. I don’t know why.
Here’s a first implementation… any suggestion on how to improve it?

many thanks!

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]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211617 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211617 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:08:15 +0000 Roman Thilenius turn on overdrive?

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211618 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211618 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:25:44 +0000 personal_username yep, already turned on… ;-)

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211619 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211619 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:15:14 +0000 personal_username mmm… my last post could be understood with “yes, problem solved”, but it was “I already have overdrive on, and it still doesn’t work. thank you anyway”.

Just to make it clear that i still need help ;-)

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211620 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211620 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:00:17 +0000 broc For me the quantized delay seems to work as expected.

Can you post a patch that demonstrates your problems?

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211621 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211621 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:21:00 +0000 personal_username here it is.
is basically a simple structure to create a melody and do the reverse, permutation and repetition.
What happens is that when i *create* the melody with [phasor~] everything works as expected, BUT when I do repetitions (with [del]) everything goes out of time / and don’t know why (oh: that’s a ryhme!)

thanks!

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211622 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211622 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:30:43 +0000 personal_username ok, here:

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]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211623 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211623 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:16:50 +0000 Chris Muir How should one use this patch to illustrate the problem?
What does vs.between do? (it’s not a standard Max object/abstraction.)

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211624 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211624 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:06:12 +0000 personal_username here’s the external. It’s basically a threshold random. the patch illustrate the problem in the sense that while the melody generation is always in synch, the repetitions of the melody gets out of synch, in a preceivable way.
And the first one use a a timing method with [phasor~], while the second one uses a simple [delay].
What I’m trying to do is to have repetitions as in synch as the melody generation.

hope I’ve been clear…

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211625 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211625 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:55:53 +0000 Mark Durham I had a quick look at your patch, and couldn’t quite grasp what was happening (despite your good comments!).

One idea I had though, if it’s the replay which is causing the problem then maybe you could set up a different system to take that job. It would be easy to use mtr for this, simple record and playback.

Also, have you checked out the RTC library? There are some great externals for creating permutations etc which could simplify things.

good luck,

Mark

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211626 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211626 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:01:55 +0000 roger.carruthers Aha, the old Russian doll abstraction! vs.between contains vs.random!
cheers
Roger

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211627 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211627 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:20:49 +0000 personal_username ahah, here’s the smallest doll! ^_^

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211628 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211628 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:22:18 +0000 Chris Muir The scale colls aren’t saved with the patch. Could you upload the data from one of them?

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211629 <![CDATA[Re: Reliable delay]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/reliable-delay/#post-211629 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:52:39 +0000 personal_username oh, sorry you all guys, looks like I really need to sleep… *_*
Hope after this last fix the patch will work for everybody!
Thank you all for your patience!

here it is a coll, thanks, Chris!

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