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sequencing Ableton Live with Max, using [rtin] to get tempo from Live to keep Max in sync. Up till now all of my sequences that im sending from Max are 4/4 . But as luck would have it, just made a really cool one that is in 6/16. Live 7 supports time sig changes. But im wondering how this translates to [rtin]. It seems that when i change sigs in Live that me sequencer still puts out messages at 4/4 intervals, which i would expect

Again basically i want to change time sigs in Live and implement some way for max to be aware that there is a time sig change. Im using [rtin]->[counter] to drive my sequencer. any help would be appreciated... I tried just making the seq into 4/4 but it doesnt sound quite right, so im hoping that there is a way possible...

Hello all,
   sequencing Ableton Live with Max,  using [rtin] to get tempo from Live to keep Max in sync. Up till now all of my sequences that im sending from Max are 4/4 . But as luck would have it, just made a really cool one that is in 6/16. Live 7 supports time sig changes. But im wondering how this translates to [rtin]. It seems that when i change sigs in Live that me sequencer still puts out messages at 4/4 intervals, which i would expect
Again basically i want to change time sigs in Live and implement some way for max to be aware that there is a time sig change. Im using [rtin]->[counter] to drive my sequencer. any help would be appreciated... I tried just making the seq into 4/4 but it doesnt sound quite right, so im hoping that there is a way possible...


rtin-and-time-signature-changes

> Live 7 supports time sig changes. But im wondering how this 

> translates to [rtin]. It seems that when i change sigs in Live that 

> me sequencer still puts out messages at 4/4 intervals

MIDI Beat Clock doesn't understand time signatures at all - rtin will 

just report clock bytes at the rate of 24 per quarter-note. If you 

want to get time signature information, you'll probably have to wrap 

your code into a VST using Pluggo (and even then, I don't know whether 

you'll be informed of time signature changes as a sequence runs).

On 13 Apr 2008, at 03:23, mHatsys wrote:
> Live 7 supports time sig changes. But im wondering how this  
> translates to [rtin]. It seems that when i change sigs in Live that  
> me sequencer still puts out messages at 4/4 intervals

MIDI Beat Clock doesn't understand time signatures at all - rtin will  
just report clock bytes at the rate of 24 per quarter-note. If you  
want to get time signature information, you'll probably have to wrap  
your code into a VST using Pluggo (and even then, I don't know whether  
you'll be informed of time signature changes as a sequence runs).

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Thanks for the info. Yeah, i guess i should look into slaving Live to max. Then i would be able to send Time sig changes to Live pretty easily. Tried a few MIDI click generator patches that i have found here by searching the forum. None seem too tight when jumping tempos. Wondering if anyone has any tips on generating a tight clock...

 Thanks for the info. Yeah, i guess i should look into slaving Live to max. Then i would be able to send Time sig changes to Live pretty easily. Tried a few MIDI click generator patches that i have found here by searching the forum. None seem too tight when jumping tempos. Wondering if anyone has any tips on generating a tight clock...
Or Max 5 should have VST~ host synch...


rtin and Time Signature changes?