joelsquare

I've been really struggling here to make something, maybe someone can help.

I've been working on a set-up that needs to be able to remember the state of a MATRIXCTRL. The complication is that the MATRIXCTRL is 64 X 128 (it's a 64 step sequencer). It seems that everywhere I turn for this, there is an obstacle... PATTR and it's friends have a limit to numbers, as does COLL.

When I use 'getcolumn' in this set up, because it's 64 X 128, I end up with 8192 zeros and ones. The only thing I can think of is to maybe store EACH column from the matrix to a different location in coll, but that makes things very complicated, as I'm hoping to be able to save presets with coll.

PS. My Max/MSPness is fairly beginnerish, so apologies if there is an obvious solution.

I've been working on a set-up that needs to be able to remember the state of a MATRIXCTRL.  The complication is that the MATRIXCTRL is 64 X 128 (it's a 64 step sequencer).  It seems that everywhere I turn for this, there is an obstacle... PATTR and it's friends have a limit to numbers, as does COLL.

When I use 'getcolumn' in this set up, because it's 64 X 128, I end up with 8192 zeros and ones.  The only thing I can think of is to maybe store EACH column from the matrix to a different location in coll, but that makes things very complicated, as I'm hoping to be able to save presets with coll.

PS. My Max/MSPness is fairly beginnerish, so apologies if there is an obvious solution.


saving-matrixctrl-states

Sorry to say, the solution is actually dead-obvious -- the preset object saves matrixctrl states.

The solution bellow saves only the points which are enable in a 

message box (or what ever, event a pattr object). If you exceed the 

actual 4094 atoms limitation, you can split that in two message boxes.

The solution bellow saves only the points which are enable in a  
message box (or what ever, event a pattr object). If you exceed the  
actual 4094 atoms limitation, you can split that in two message boxes.

Not sure if I fully understand what you're doing, but

if you're using the row values to represent notes, why

not use the matrixctrl in dial mode instead ? ie.

Instead of representing your note values by rows,

represent them by dial/slider position. Your

matrixctrl then only needs to be 1 x 64 (or 4 x 16 or

I just happen to have started working on a 64 step

sequencer recently that does exactly that.

The downside to using this approach is that if you

really do need 128 note precision, you'd have to build

a 128 state graphic for the matrixctrl; how good are

Not sure if I fully understand what you're doing, but
if you're using the row values to represent notes, why
not use the matrixctrl in dial mode instead ? ie.
Instead of representing your note values by rows,
represent them by dial/slider position. Your
matrixctrl then only needs to be 1 x 64 (or 4 x 16 or
whatever).
I just happen to have started working on a 64 step
sequencer  recently that does exactly that.
 The downside to using this approach is that if you
really do need 128 note precision, you'd have to build
a 128 state graphic for the matrixctrl; how good are
you at automating Photshop...?
cheers
Roger


Evan, I've found the Preset object a bit flakey, I tend to not trust it. I've had it drop info... sorry I should have mentioned it.

Emmanuel, your solution looks great... let me just see if it works when the matrix is so huge.

Roger... I don't think I know what dial mode is. Can you explain that?

The way that I am ulitmately using it, is to have the ability to drag and drop a MIDI sequence onto the matrix and to have it display the sequence without rests, so just notes. But I do need it to be polyphonic and compatible with any MIDI file that is under 64 steps. I've managed to accomplish it all except saving it's state.

Anyway, if you all have more ideas, let me know!

Evan, I've found the Preset object a bit flakey, I tend to not trust it.  I've had it drop info... sorry I should have mentioned it.

Roger... I don't think I know what dial mode is.  Can you explain that?

The way that I am ulitmately using it, is to have the ability to drag and drop a MIDI sequence onto the matrix and to have it display the sequence without rests, so just notes.  But I do need it to be polyphonic and compatible with any MIDI file that is under 64 steps.  I've managed to accomplish it all except saving it's state.

That would be because it's somehow escaped

There was some discussion about it recently at

Basically, matrixctrls can have more than just 2

states, so they can behave as sliders or dials; you

need to send the matrixctrl a dialmode 1 message, and

a dialtracking [int] message to set the sensitivity.

You also need to make multi-state matrixctrl graphics;

I posted a link to a few examples on the thread

That would be because it's somehow escaped
documentation.
There was some discussion about it recently at
http://tinyurl.com/quy32 - you have scroll down the
thread a bit.
Basically, matrixctrls can have more than just 2
states, so they can behave as sliders or dials; you
need to send the matrixctrl a dialmode 1 message, and
a dialtracking [int] message to set the sensitivity.
You also need to make multi-state matrixctrl graphics;
I posted a link to a few examples on the thread
mentioned above,
cheers
Roger


Would u have a link to a patcher-example or sth. ? Unfortunately, I 

cant find "examples" in the thread u mentioned, "only" screenshots.

Any help or advice would be very nice ;-) and greatly appreciated!

(e.g. settings of pictures-size, is remote-controlling (msgs) 

possible ? etc. -> Ive been trying it myself with the default 

matrixctrl pictures, but max crashed.... and unfortunately almost no 

Would u have a link to a patcher-example or sth. ? Unfortunately, I  
cant find "examples" in the thread u mentioned, "only" screenshots.

(e.g. settings of pictures-size, is remote-controlling (msgs)  
possible ? etc. -> Ive been trying it myself with the default  
matrixctrl pictures, but max crashed.... and unfortunately almost no  
docu/help about this topic)

The examples are at www.wildfrontear.co.uk/mctl

stuff.1.zip (it was in the last post of the thread).

I've added a higher precision version of the slider

There is some info on dial mode, as pointed out by

Jhno (also in the thread!) in the PictureFormat

The examples are at www.wildfrontear.co.uk/mctl
stuff.1.zip (it was in the last post of the thread).
I've added a higher precision version of the slider
and a 5 octave vertical keyslider.
There is some info on dial mode, as pointed out by
Jhno (also in the thread!) in the PictureFormat
sub-patch in matrixctrl.help, 
cheers
Roger


Saving MatrixCtrl States