Cycling 74 » Topic: Search some expressions or equivalents to moog~ and vcf~ from PureData http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/feed Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:34:07 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.2.4 http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-56147 <![CDATA[Search some expressions or equivalents to moog~ and vcf~ from PureData]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-56147 Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:31:19 +0000 mortimer59 Dear All ,I am currently searching equivalent expressions or objects to replace items moog~, vcf~ to convert puredata patch in MaxMsp. Any idea?

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201561 <![CDATA[Re: Search some expressions or equivalents to moog~ and vcf~ from PureData]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201561 Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:32:50 +0000 pid moog~ == lores~ / vcf~ == reson~

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201562 <![CDATA[Re: Search some expressions or equivalents to moog~ and vcf~ from PureData]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201562 Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:24:28 +0000 Amil Mille is moog~ really like lores~? a real analog moog is not wimpy 2nd-order filter like that.

a better moog emulation should be 4th-order filter like the one in tap.filter~ from tap.tools ( http://download.74objects.com/taptools/index.html ).

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201563 <![CDATA[Re: Search some expressions or equivalents to moog~ and vcf~ from PureData]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201563 Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:40:17 +0000 julien breval no, lores~ is not like moog~, even if you stack 2 of them for getting a 4th-order filter

it has to do with the resonance: you have to increase it a lot for hearing it, but it immediately sounds thin, whistling and aggressive (same for biquad/filtercoeff)

the Moog filters (and most analogue filters) are imperfect but have a pleasing resonance tone, which is not that easy to get in software, though it’s still possible (as shown by many VSTi synths)

maybe you can get the right sound using the right coefficients for two biquad filters, but I have no idea how to do it

I am also trying to find a resonant lowpass filter solution for Max and will tell you if I get any interesting results

best regards
julien

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201564 <![CDATA[Re: Search some expressions or equivalents to moog~ and vcf~ from PureData]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201564 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:12:15 +0000 toothpaste any results yet julien?

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201565 <![CDATA[Re: Search some expressions or equivalents to moog~ and vcf~ from PureData]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201565 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:42:45 +0000 Peter McCulloch Here’s a free one that I ported. There are other people porting other versions, so be on the lookout.

http://cycling74.com/toolbox/pm-stilsonmoog/

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201566 <![CDATA[Re: Search some expressions or equivalents to moog~ and vcf~ from PureData]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201566 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:35:45 +0000 Peter McCulloch As a followup, here’s another one I just released.

It does self-oscillation, has multiple modes (LP24, HP12,BP12,LP12,PK12,NCH12) and sounds nice and warm.

http://cycling74.com/toolbox/pm-ladder-moog-ladder-filter/

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201567 <![CDATA[Re: Search some expressions or equivalents to moog~ and vcf~ from PureData]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/search-some-expressions-or-equivalents-to-moog-and-vcf-from-puredata/#post-201567 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:55:12 +0000 stkr yes, great work peter.

…and i posted a faithful replica of the Pd vcf~ (well, bp~ at audio rate) here:

http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=31276

looks like Gen is changing things for the better.

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