Matthew Aidekman

Yes, actually, doing something like this was on my list of things todo.

Lobjects are probably the most all around useful set of 3rd party externs next to jasch's string externals.

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Peter if you're reading, any word on whether you're porting the 

Lobjects to universal binary (recognizing that Max/MSP UB is still 

Peter if you're reading, any word on whether you're porting the 
Lobjects to universal binary (recognizing that Max/MSP UB is still 
beta...)??

How can I get the help files of Peter Elsea's list? Could you send me?

Matt, 
How can I get the help files of Peter Elsea's list? Could you send me?
Thanks.
Best regards
Shing-kwei


As always, www.maxobjects.com is your friend - search

As always, www.maxobjects.com is your friend - search
for Lobjects,
cheers
Roger


Jesus christ. That makes two people who have needlessly quoted the lengthy original patch. Can someone check my head here, am I going crazy? Why the hell are you guys using the QUOTE button instead of REPLY?

Jesus christ. That makes two people who have needlessly quoted the lengthy original patch.  Can someone check my head here, am I going crazy?  Why the hell are you guys using the QUOTE button instead of REPLY?


Because we're not using the web forum, we're using e-mail.

Relax - your friendly list administrator already contacted us to 

chide us. It was late and I made a mistake.

>Jesus christ. That makes two people who have needlessly quoted the 

>lengthy original patch. Can someone check my head here, am I going 

>crazy? Why the hell are you guys using the QUOTE button instead of 

202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X

Relax - your friendly list administrator already contacted us to 
chide us.  It was late and I made a mistake.

At 6:08 AM -0700 7/31/06, binez0r wrote:
>Jesus christ. That makes two people who have needlessly quoted the 
>lengthy original patch.  Can someone check my head here, am I going 
>crazy?  Why the hell are you guys using the QUOTE button instead of 
>REPLY?

-- 
Dan Nigrin
Defective Records
202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X
http://www.defectiverecords.com
http://www.jackosx.com


Beacuse, like many other folks here, I read

from/reply to this list via email or even webmail;

it's an easy mistake to make, but I apologise (as I

Many of us here started on this list when it was

'just' a mailing list, (and some of us actually

Note that I choose to quote your post this time, so

that we all know wtf we're talking about,

> Jesus christ. That makes two people who have

> needlessly quoted the lengthy original patch. Can

> someone check my head here, am I going crazy? Why

> the hell are you guys using the QUOTE button instead

Beacuse, like many other folks here, I read
from/reply to this list via email or even webmail;
it's an easy mistake to make, but I apologise (as I
did last time I did it). 
 Many of us here started on this list when it was
'just' a mailing list, (and some of us actually
prefered it that way 8-0 )
 Note that I choose to quote your post this time, so
that we all know wtf we're talking about,
cheers
Roger

>
> Jesus christ. That makes two people who have
> needlessly quoted the lengthy original patch.  Can
> someone check my head here, am I going crazy?  Why
> the hell are you guys using the QUOTE button instead
> of REPLY?
>


>Most mailers auto-quote when you hit reply. However (and this is a 

>*big* however), there is a key called "backspace", located 

>immediately above the return key, which is useful in trimming 

>responses down to the minimum necessary to set context.

>Neither Roger, nor Shing-kwei, nor Dan are alone in seemingly being 

>either unaware of the key or unable to use it judiciously.

And since you are now guilty Peter of not reading all posts before 

replying, another horrific listserve/forum sin, allow me to reiterate 

that I (and Roger) have already posted that we simply made a mistake. 

I think if you review our previous posting practices you'll agree 

>Most mailers auto-quote when you hit reply. However (and this is a 
>*big* however), there is a key called "backspace", located 
>immediately above the return key, which is useful in trimming 
>responses down to the minimum necessary to set context.
>
>Neither Roger, nor Shing-kwei, nor Dan are alone in seemingly being 
>either unaware of the key or unable to use it judiciously.

And since you are now guilty Peter of not reading all posts before 
replying, another horrific listserve/forum sin, allow me to reiterate 
that I (and Roger) have already posted that we simply made a mistake. 
I think if you review our previous posting practices you'll agree 
that we don't routinely do so.

Dan
-- 
Dan Nigrin
Defective Records
202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X
http://www.defectiverecords.com
http://www.jackosx.com


On 31-Jul-2006, at 16:41, Dan Nigrin wrote:

> And since you are now guilty Peter of not reading all posts before 

Not guilty, m'lord. EMail access is necessarily asynchronous. I 

referred to all posts that were available at the time, my posting 

(The previous paragraph to be read with a John-Cleese-in-stentorial- 

Since I was pointing out that yours (y'all's) was a common error, and 

thus implicitly less egregious, while simultaneously pointing out 

that that plaintiff was not in a position to Cast the First Stone, I 

am, at least in part, on your (y'all's) side. Even if the Biblical 

reference leant more towards chastisement than forgiveness.

[Please cf the .sig from my previous post on this thread if you need it]

On 31-Jul-2006, at 16:41, Dan Nigrin wrote:
> And since you are now guilty Peter of not reading all posts before  
> replying,

Not guilty, m'lord. EMail access is necessarily asynchronous. I  
referred to all posts that were available at the time, my posting  
crossed yours. Case closed.

(The previous paragraph to be read with a John-Cleese-in-stentorial- 
barrister-mode voice.)

Since I was pointing out that yours (y'all's) was a common error, and  
thus implicitly less egregious, while simultaneously pointing out  
that that plaintiff was not in a position to Cast the First Stone, I  
am, at least in part, on your (y'all's) side. Even if the Biblical  
reference leant more towards chastisement than forgiveness.

[Please cf the .sig from my previous post on this thread if you need it]


What's all this nonsense about posting under h4x0r names? It doesn't matter what name you post under... Musicians and computer persons go under aliases, nicknames, pseudo names all the time, all day, everyday... I personally don't see why the hell that should even be an issue with anyone on this list..

Sp, let's stick to the point. The included patch was quoted and requoted and it turned the first page of the post in a 10 mile long annoyance. That's the issue, stick with it or this problem [which shows up all over the forum] won't get solved. Mix it with a bunch of whiny wishy wash and you've got your knickers in a mucky muck.

What's all this nonsense about posting under h4x0r names?  It doesn't matter what name you post under... Musicians and computer persons go under aliases, nicknames, pseudo names all the time, all day, everyday...  I personally don't see why the hell that should even be an issue with anyone on this list.. 

Sp, let's stick to the point.  The included patch was quoted and requoted and it turned the first page of the post in a 10 mile long annoyance.   That's the issue, stick with it or this problem [which shows up all over the forum] won't get solved.  Mix it with a bunch of whiny wishy wash and you've got your knickers in a mucky muck.


complaining about geeky/tech/techno/idm/glitch handles on the max/msp 

list is like joining a goth list and complaining about everyone 

signing "raven" and "lord darkness" and "fayde" and the like....

On Jul 31, 2006, at 3:12 PM, binez0r wrote:

> What's all this nonsense about posting under h4x0r names? It 

> doesn't matter what name you post under... Musicians and computer 

> persons go under aliases, nicknames, pseudo names all the time, all 

> day, everyday... I personally don't see why the hell that should 

> even be an issue with anyone on this list..

> Sp, let's stick to the point. The included patch was quoted and 

> requoted and it turned the first page of the post in a 10 mile long 

> annoyance. That's the issue, stick with it or this problem [which 

> shows up all over the forum] won't get solved. Mix it with a bunch 

> of whiny wishy wash and you've got your knickers in a mucky muck.

complaining about geeky/tech/techno/idm/glitch handles on the max/msp  
list is like joining a goth list and complaining about everyone  
signing "raven" and "lord darkness" and "fayde" and the like....

>
> What's all this nonsense about posting under h4x0r names?  It  
> doesn't matter what name you post under... Musicians and computer  
> persons go under aliases, nicknames, pseudo names all the time, all  
> day, everyday...  I personally don't see why the hell that should  
> even be an issue with anyone on this list..
>
> Sp, let's stick to the point.  The included patch was quoted and  
> requoted and it turned the first page of the post in a 10 mile long  
> annoyance.   That's the issue, stick with it or this problem [which  
> shows up all over the forum] won't get solved.  Mix it with a bunch  
> of whiny wishy wash and you've got your knickers in a mucky muck.
>


On 31/7/06 18:24, "matthew aidekman" wrote:

> Mr winfrey, I know you are a hard working man.

And so is Mr. Andrew Pask, why only the other day, when I apologised for

accidentally quoting a (different!) large patch, he took the time to write

back to me saying that there was no need to apologise - and tidied up my

> I'm bored. help me out here.. anyone got anything else?

*** People replying via the forum, please _do_ quote when appropriate, eg.

if the question is neither obvious, nor in the title, then simply posting

"The answer is 42" is rather irksome for those of us who read via e-mail,

PS. This delete key thing is great! I don't know how I ever Maxed without

On 31/7/06 18:24, "matthew aidekman"  wrote:

And so is Mr. Andrew Pask, why only the other day, when I apologised for
accidentally quoting a (different!) large patch, he took the time to write
back to me saying that there was no need to apologise - and tidied up my
inconsiderate mess to boot!

> I'm bored.   help me out here..  anyone got anything else?
> -matt
I love your bored posts. OK:

*** People replying via the forum, please _do_ quote when appropriate, eg.
if the question is neither obvious, nor in the title, then simply posting
"The answer is 42" is rather irksome for those of us who read via e-mail,
Cheers
Roger

PS. This delete key thing is great! I don't know how I ever Maxed without
it!

for the record, my comment was a joke. I guess I have no sense of 

for the record, my comment was a joke.  I guess I have no sense of  
humor.
sorry
-matt


;( ........ now I'm depressed. Time for noodlez.

;( ........ now I'm depressed.  Time for noodlez.


Samuel Huntington didn't know the half of it.

On 31-Jul-2006, at 21:39, billy gomberg wrote:

> complaining about geeky/tech/techno/idm/glitch handles on the max/ 

> msp list is like joining a goth list and complaining about everyone 

> signing "raven" and "lord darkness" and "fayde" and the like....

The analogy is fundamentally flawed. It reminds me of nothing so much 

as the scene in _Sleeper_ where Diane Keaton reads a poem which has a 

butterfly metamorphosing into a caterpillar. The Max list was around 

long before the "geeky/tech/techno/idm/glitch handles" and the vast 

majority of correspondents sign with the name printed in their 

passport (or something recognizably close).

Pseudonyms obviously have a place in the club/DJ/VJ performance 

scene, where they aim to evoke an atmosphere that will attract an 

audience even before the music has been heard. But we're not 

performing in a club here, and the affected anonymity gets old faster 

than you can say "Netochka Nezvanova." They're as tedious as 

If people want to use fatuous names, fine. But then why complain 

about other misdemeanors? Names do matter, just as much as any other 

Peter Castine +--> Litter Power & Litter Bundle for Jitter

Interface Building for |home | chez nous|

Max/MSP Extremely cool |bei uns | i nostri|

On 31-Jul-2006, at 21:39, billy gomberg wrote:
> i would say something like
>
> complaining about geeky/tech/techno/idm/glitch handles on the max/ 
> msp list is like joining a goth list and complaining about everyone  
> signing "raven" and "lord darkness" and "fayde" and the like....

The analogy is fundamentally flawed. It reminds me of nothing so much  
as the scene in _Sleeper_ where Diane Keaton reads a poem which has a  
butterfly metamorphosing into a caterpillar. The Max list was around  
long before the "geeky/tech/techno/idm/glitch handles" and the vast  
majority of correspondents sign with the name printed in their  
passport (or something recognizably close).

Pseudonyms obviously have a place in the club/DJ/VJ performance  
scene, where they aim to evoke an atmosphere that will attract an  
audience even before the music has been heard. But we're not  
performing in a club here, and the affected anonymity gets old faster  
than you can say "Netochka Nezvanova." They're as tedious as  
throbbing toroids.

If people want to use fatuous names, fine. But then why complain  
about other misdemeanors? Names do matter, just as much as any other  
aspect of netiquette.

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                                Universal Binaries on the way
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OK Folks, I think we've had enough of this thread now.

I suppose I could omit the zero from my name and restore it to its original state. I quite like omitting the "o" for a zero though.

I suppose I could omit the zero from my name and restore it to its original state.  I quite like omitting the "o" for a zero though. 

https://cycling74.com/forums/old-mailing-list-archives-restored/

From there read that article on Netochka:

http://www.salon.com/2002/03/01/netochka/

The veritable 'Lord Voldemort' of the C74 mailing-list/internetz: *gasp!* "Do not speak [her] name!"

And eventually lead me to this thread, which was 

 before my time, I can tell(as there's no one directing their anger at a direct quote from me here, haha :D ...and i started going crazy here around 2007 ;) )

And there's Andrew Pask, doing his famed IrishCop impersonation "Nuttin ta see here, Move along, Move along..." (just kidding)

And there's Matthew Aidekman, now known as "AudioMatt"....

And there's Peter Castine, with his impeccable sense of 'netiquette-but-don't-sweatiquette'...

(all these little burps and hiccups, small things, little things... the little things that make this place just a little bit more colorful and addictive to return to, year after year... (hehe, i'm so full of shit))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhOs-zBeRHs

Was reminiscing:
https://cycling74.com/forums/old-mailing-list-archives-restored/
http://max-archive.bek.no/
From there read that article on Netochka:
http://www.salon.com/2002/03/01/netochka/
The veritable 'Lord Voldemort' of the C74 mailing-list/internetz: *gasp!*  "Do not speak [her] name!"
'NN' is permissible, though: https://cycling74.com/forums/nn/
:O
And eventually lead me to this thread, which was just before my time, I can tell(as there's no one directing their anger at a direct quote from me here, haha :D ...and i started going crazy here around 2007 ;) )

And there's Andrew Pask, doing his famed IrishCop impersonation "Nuttin ta see here, Move along, Move along..."  (just kidding)
And there's Matthew Aidekman, now known as "AudioMatt"....
And there's Peter Castine, with his impeccable sense of 'netiquette-but-don't-sweatiquette'...
*sigh* Nostalgia.
 (all these little burps and hiccups, small things, little things... the little things that make this place just a little bit more colorful and addictive to return to, year after year... (hehe, i'm so full of shit))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhOs-zBeRHs
Cheers :)


Still use LGuide. Wish I could get lobjects in 64 bit max a little more reliable. Probably my super old OSX installation.

Still use LGuide.  Wish I could get lobjects in 64 bit max a little more reliable.  Probably my super old OSX installation.


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