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December 10, 2006 | 5:44 pm

Old and busted: textedit
New hotness: this thing
-matt

#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P message 62 33 88 196617 click me and type;
#N vpatcher 30 89 630 489;
#P origin 0 -22;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P comment 326 216 48 196617 and here;
#P newex 239 52 20 196617 t b;
#P newex 239 199 136 196617 prepend script send ass set;
#P newex 169 109 27 196617 t l b;
#N vpatcher 30 89 629 599;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P message 59 239 14 196617 0;
#P message 190 49 14 196617 1;
#P newex 81 172 29 196617 gate;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 122 317 64 196617 fromsymbol;
#P newex 80 212 52 196617 select 13;
#P message 207 49 33 196617 clear;
#P newex 122 265 27 196617 t b i;
#P message 122 379 93 196617 abcdef ghi jkl;
#P newex 122 350 62 196617 prepend set;
#P newex 122 296 46 196617 itoa;
#P inlet 100 131 15 0;
#P inlet 190 25 15 0;
#P outlet 299 370 15 0;
#P outlet 122 400 15 0;
#P connect 9 0 13 0;
#P connect 11 0 9 0;
#P fasten 12 0 11 0 195 89 86 89;
#P fasten 13 0 11 0 64 271 30 271 30 159 86 159;
#P lcolor 2;
#P connect 3 0 11 1;
#P connect 9 1 7 0;
#P fasten 8 0 4 0 212 286 127 286;
#P lcolor 7;
#P connect 7 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 10 0;
#P connect 10 0 5 0;
#P fasten 9 0 6 0 85 372 127 372;
#P connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 0 0;
#P connect 7 1 4 1;
#P connect 2 0 12 0;
#P connect 2 0 8 0;
#P connect 10 0 1 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 169 81 80 196617 p asciiCollector;
#P message 283 173 136 196617 script send ass set , refresh;
#P inlet 239 21 15 0;
#P inlet 169 61 15 0;
#P outlet 169 131 15 0;
#P outlet 239 264 15 0;
#P window linecount 0;
#P comment 319 136 100 196617 change the ass to anything you need in
here;
#P user com 114 151 83 196617 38;
#K set 0 25705 29539 28526 28261 25460 8308 26725 8224 25455 27759
29285 25632 28769 29795 26656 25448 28530 25632 29807 8299 25957
28704 29800 25888 25455 28013 25966 29728 30568 25966 8313 28533 8296
26996 8306 25972 30066 28160;
#K end;
#P connect 4 0 7 0;
#P connect 7 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 3 0;
#P connect 5 0 10 0;
#P connect 10 0 7 1;
#P connect 7 1 9 0;
#P fasten 6 0 2 0 288 240 244 240;
#P connect 9 0 2 0;
#P fasten 10 0 6 0 244 75 288 75;
#P connect 8 1 6 0;
#P lcolor 10;
#P pop;
#P newobj 16 54 56 196617 p;
#N thispatcher;
#Q end;
#P newobj 23 79 61 196617 thispatcher;
#P newex 16 101 63 196617 print output;
#P newex 16 33 40 196617 key;
#P window setfont Baramond 18.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P comment 84 52 185 -442499054;
#P objectname ass;
#P connect 4 0 2 0;
#P connect 5 0 4 1;
#P connect 1 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 1 3 0;
#P window clipboard copycount 6;


December 10, 2006 | 5:55 pm

Hey that’s great, except that you can’t delete characters, get ascii
values of depressed keys, output words on the basis of clicking, or
store the text you’ve typed. Hot indeed!

What’s your beef with textedit?

jb

p.s. your patch is actually cool, but those of us who write this
software you love to hate prefer constructive criticism, where possible.

Am 10.12.2006 um 18:44 schrieb matthew aidekman:

> Old and busted: textedit
> New hotness: this thing


December 10, 2006 | 8:05 pm

On Sun, 10 Dec 2006, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:

> What’s your beef with textedit?

Maybe not Matthew’s beefiness, but here’s mine:

1. Won’t preserve carriage returns or newlines on saving.
2. (one of my faves) Save text that has an imbedded ‘special character’,
like a script that says "var = $1". Then reopen. Try escaping
the ‘special character’, "var = $1". Save and reopen several
times. It’s just like MAGIC!
3. No way to disable sending of text out the left-most outlet once any
new text has been entered (i.e. set it to only send text with a
bang, so that mistypings don’t get sent automatically).

But you guys knew all this already…

Can’t you, like, write a fully-featured word processor and imbed it in
Max in your spare time? :-)

brad

http://music.columbia.edu/~brad


December 10, 2006 | 8:49 pm

I can explain. First of all, I’m so sorry.. I’m a frequenter of
an awfully stupid website called fark.com. Fark allows visitors to
submit alternative headlines to news articles. One recurring theme
on fark is " old and busted___ new hotness____"

I’ve included some headlines I found searching the "Farkives" this
should help you understand the spirit I posted in. Fark is pretty
popular, sometimes I forget their cliches aren’t part of larger net
culture.

The reason I presented an alternative to textedit is the following.
Sometimes I look for different tools that do the same thing
differently. Imagine using textedit in the multitude of every day
places you enter text. Mail, Track names, file names, calendar
items, spreadsheets, or even object names

Again sorry for the confusion
-matt

Old and busted: Wheelchair basketball.
New hotness: Wheelchair rappelling

Old and busted: Streaking at sporting events.
New hotness: Streaking at church

Old and busted: Power cables.
New hotness: Power over Ethernet

Old and busted: Magic the Gathering.
New hotness: Pope JPII trading cards

Old and busted: Spa mud baths.
New hotness: Austria’s beer baths

Old and busted senior-citizen activities: Mah-jong, muffin baking.
New hotness: "Becoming one of America’s elite warriors," pushing
"physical and mental limits beyond anything" known

Old and busted: Hot air ballooning.
New hotness: Tying a few dozen helium balloons to a lawn chair

Old and busted: Wal-Mart calling police when a black man attempts to
cash a check.
New hotness: Wal-Mart calling police when a group of choir students
show up to sing holiday songs

Old and Busted: Conservative morons trying to keep kids away from
Harry Potter.
New Hotness: Liberal morons trying to keep kids away from Chronicles
of Narnia

Old and busted: CCTV surveillance cameras.
New hotness: CCTV surveillance cameras that shout at you


December 10, 2006 | 9:46 pm

> Can’t you, like, write a fully-featured word processor and imbed it
> in Max in your spare time? :-)

I fully understand cyclings obligations to absolute portability. and
I don’t question it. That being said, it can be a bit frustrating to
not have access to the dumb (or new and cool) things that apple has
provided to most developers for years. I’m no programmer, but
sometimes I wish Cycling sold a platform dependent library with
things like… hierarchal menus resizable windows. or scroll bars.

I know I know… I need learn C its on my list of things to do.
-matt


December 10, 2006 | 9:46 pm

pft. No need to apologize. I actually like your solution, and have
used something very very similar in my v001 system to use comments as
dynamic titles for my UI elements. :)

On Dec 10, 2006, at 3:49 PM, matthew aidekman wrote:

> I can explain. First of all, I’m so sorry.. I’m a frequenter
> of an awfully stupid website called fark.com. Fark allows visitors
> to submit alternative headlines to news articles. One recurring
> theme on fark is " old and busted___ new hotness____"
>
> I’ve included some headlines I found searching the "Farkives" this
> should help you understand the spirit I posted in. Fark is pretty
> popular, sometimes I forget their cliches aren’t part of larger
> net culture.
>
> The reason I presented an alternative to textedit is the
> following. Sometimes I look for different tools that do the same
> thing differently. Imagine using textedit in the multitude of
> every day places you enter text. Mail, Track names, file names,
> calendar items, spreadsheets, or even object names
>
> Again sorry for the confusion
> -matt
>
>
>
> Old and busted: Wheelchair basketball.
> New hotness: Wheelchair rappelling
>
> Old and busted: Streaking at sporting events.
> New hotness: Streaking at church
>
> Old and busted: Power cables.
> New hotness: Power over Ethernet
>
> Old and busted: Magic the Gathering.
> New hotness: Pope JPII trading cards
>
> Old and busted: Spa mud baths.
> New hotness: Austria’s beer baths
>
> Old and busted senior-citizen activities: Mah-jong, muffin baking.
> New hotness: "Becoming one of America’s elite warriors," pushing
> "physical and mental limits beyond anything" known
>
> Old and busted: Hot air ballooning.
> New hotness: Tying a few dozen helium balloons to a lawn chair
>
> Old and busted: Wal-Mart calling police when a black man attempts
> to cash a check.
> New hotness: Wal-Mart calling police when a group of choir students
> show up to sing holiday songs
>
> Old and Busted: Conservative morons trying to keep kids away from
> Harry Potter.
> New Hotness: Liberal morons trying to keep kids away from
> Chronicles of Narnia
>
> Old and busted: CCTV surveillance cameras.
> New hotness: CCTV surveillance cameras that shout at you
>
>

v a d e //

http://www.vade.info
abstrakt.vade.info


December 10, 2006 | 9:52 pm

>I can explain. First of all, I’m so sorry.. I’m a frequenter of
>an awfully stupid website called fark.com. Fark allows visitors to
>submit alternative headlines to news articles. One recurring theme
>on fark is " old and busted___ new hotness____"

Just so you’re not feeling totally alone on this one… I’m a daily farker myself, and I got the reference right away.


December 10, 2006 | 11:14 pm

That’s for sure. Just pointing out the context in which your posts
are read.

jb

Am 10.12.2006 um 22:46 schrieb vade:

> No need to apologize


December 11, 2006 | 2:57 am

matthew aidekman wrote:
> The reason I presented an alternative to textedit is the following.
> Sometimes I look for different tools that do the same thing
> differently. Imagine using textedit in the multitude of every day
> places you enter text. Mail, Track names, file names, calendar items,
> spreadsheets, or even object names

I have a stupid recurring fantasy of replacing some of those things with
a few Max patches. Don’t feed the monkey with the hammer.


December 11, 2006 | 11:31 pm


December 15, 2006 | 7:58 am

Hi Jeremy,

> What’s your beef with textedit?

- It’s background can’t be set to transparent;
- No optional ‘draw border frame’ feature.

> p.s. your patch is actually cool, but those of us who write this
> software you love to hate prefer constructive criticism, where
> possible.

Not a criticism, just an old wish.

ps: I never hated you!!!

Best ;-)
P.Gruchet


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