1) It appears that there's a big change in slider's behaviour beetween max 4.6 and max 5.0.3 :

If you create a slider under max 4, with a range=128000, then, when dragging it with the mouse, it increases 1 by 1 from 0 up to 127999. But under max 5, it increases about 1000 by 1000. Is there's a way to get the max 4 behaviour under max 5?

2) In max 5, the default slider is ranging from 0 to 127. But if you check "float output" in the inspector, it outputs values from 0. up to 128. Is that the expected behaviour? If so, I think that it should be stated in the reference.

1) It appears that there's a big change in slider's behaviour beetween max 4.6 and max 5.0.3 :
If you create a slider under max 4, with a range=128000, then, when dragging it with the mouse, it increases 1 by 1 from 0 up to 127999. But under max 5, it increases about 1000 by 1000. Is there's a way to get the max 4 behaviour under max 5?

slider-weirdness

It works fine if you make the slider 128000 pixels wide or high. For what do you want to give the user 128000 optional settings?

With integers there are 128 possible values. Making the sliders output floats, such a notion is no longer valid. It appears that the designers have chosen to make 128 the maximum value instead of 128 minus 1.

Quote:1) It appears that there's a big change in slider's behaviour beetween max 4.6 and max 5.0.3 :
If you create a slider under max 4, with a range=128000, then, when dragging it with the mouse, it increases 1 by 1 from 0 up to 127999. But under max 5, it increases about 1000 by 1000. Is there's a way to get the max 4 behaviour under max 5?

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2) In max 5, the default slider is ranging from 0 to 127. But if you check "float output" in the inspector, it outputs values from 0. up to 128. Is that the expected behaviour? If so, I think that it should be stated in the reference.

here goes my explanation.. hope you fine it useful

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[slider] weirdness