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is there an external (or patch) for Max/Msp similar to the opcode

is there an external (or patch) for Max/Msp similar to the opcode
sndwarp of Csound ?

sndwarp-external-for-maxmsp

> is there an external (or patch) for Max/Msp similar to the opcode

Those who know csound would use the csound~ external.

But I don't know what sndwarp does. If you explain it, I might come up 

Alessandro Fogar schrieb:
> is there an external (or patch) for Max/Msp similar to the opcode
> sndwarp of Csound ?

Those who know csound would use the csound~ external.
But I don't know what sndwarp does. If you explain it, I might come up 
with an abhaXion...

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sndwarp is a timestretch/pitchshift granular effect, uses a buffer.

I know I could use Csound~ but I prefer, also cause I have to include

http://ecmc.rochester.edu/onlinedocs/Csound/Generate/sndwarp.html):

sndwarp reads sound samples from a table and applies time-stretching

and/or pitch modification. Time and frequency modification are

indepentant from one another. For example, a sound can be stretched in

time while raising the pitch! The window size and overlap arguments

are important to the result and should be experimented with. In

general they should be as small as possible. For example, start with

iwsize=sr/10 and ioverlap=15. Try irandw=iwsize*.2. If you can get

away with less overlaps, the program will be faster. But too few may

cause an audible flutter in the amplitude. The algorithm reacts

differently depending upon the input sound and there are no fixed

rules for the best use in all circumstances. But with proper tuning,

> > is there an external (or patch) for Max/Msp similar to the opcode

> Those who know csound would use the csound~ external.

> But I don't know what sndwarp does. If you explain it, I might come up

I know I could use Csound~ but I prefer, also cause I have to include
it in a poly~ a native Max/Msp external.

(http://ecmc.rochester.edu/onlinedocs/Csound/Generate/sndwarp.html):

sndwarp reads sound samples from a table and applies time-stretching
and/or pitch modification. Time and frequency modification are
indepentant from one another. For example, a sound can be stretched in
time while raising the pitch! The window size and overlap arguments
are important to the result and should be experimented with. In
general they should be as small as possible. For example, start with
iwsize=sr/10 and ioverlap=15. Try irandw=iwsize*.2. If you can get
away with less overlaps, the program will be faster. But too few may
cause an audible flutter in the amplitude. The algorithm reacts
differently depending upon the input sound and there are no fixed
rules for the best use in all circumstances. But with proper tuning,
excellent results can be achieved.

2007/9/19, Stefan Tiedje :
> Alessandro Fogar schrieb:
> > is there an external (or patch) for Max/Msp similar to the opcode
> > sndwarp of Csound ?
>
> Those who know csound would use the csound~ external.
> But I don't know what sndwarp does. If you explain it, I might come up
> with an abhaXion...
>
> Stefan
>
> --
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>
>


I must add that the read pointer in the buffer has to be an inlet.

> sndwarp is a timestretch/pitchshift granular effect, uses a buffer.

> I know I could use Csound~ but I prefer, also cause I have to include

> it in a poly~ a native Max/Msp external.

> sndwarp reads sound samples from a table and applies time-stretching

> and/or pitch modification. Time and frequency modification are

> indepentant from one another. For example, a sound can be stretched in

> time while raising the pitch! The window size and overlap arguments

> are important to the result and should be experimented with. In

> general they should be as small as possible. For example, start with

> iwsize=sr/10 and ioverlap=15. Try irandw=iwsize*.2. If you can get

> away with less overlaps, the program will be faster. But too few may

> cause an audible flutter in the amplitude. The algorithm reacts

> differently depending upon the input sound and there are no fixed

> rules for the best use in all circumstances. But with proper tuning,

> > > is there an external (or patch) for Max/Msp similar to the opcode

> > Those who know csound would use the csound~ external.

> > But I don't know what sndwarp does. If you explain it, I might come up

2007/9/19, Alessandro Fogar :
> Stefan,
>
> sndwarp is a timestretch/pitchshift granular effect, uses a buffer.
>
> I know I could use Csound~ but I prefer, also cause I have to include
> it in a poly~ a native Max/Msp external.
>
> from the csound manual
>
> (http://ecmc.rochester.edu/onlinedocs/Csound/Generate/sndwarp.html):
>
> sndwarp reads sound samples from a table and applies time-stretching
> and/or pitch modification. Time and frequency modification are
> indepentant from one another. For example, a sound can be stretched in
> time while raising the pitch! The window size and overlap arguments
> are important to the result and should be experimented with. In
> general they should be as small as possible. For example, start with
> iwsize=sr/10 and ioverlap=15. Try irandw=iwsize*.2. If you can get
> away with less overlaps, the program will be faster. But too few may
> cause an audible flutter in the amplitude. The algorithm reacts
> differently depending upon the input sound and there are no fixed
> rules for the best use in all circumstances. But with proper tuning,
> excellent results can be achieved.
>
> All the best
>
> many thanks in advance
>
> --
> Alessandro Fogar
>
> http://www.fogar.it
>
> 2007/9/19, Stefan Tiedje :
> > Alessandro Fogar schrieb:
> > > is there an external (or patch) for Max/Msp similar to the opcode
> > > sndwarp of Csound ?
> >
> > Those who know csound would use the csound~ external.
> > But I don't know what sndwarp does. If you explain it, I might come up
> > with an abhaXion...
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > --
> > Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> > --_____-----------|--------------
> > --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
> > -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
> >
> >
>

I have reported on a similar process in MSP using play~ to do the time

stretch and gizmo~ to do the pitch shift. It should still in the forum

BTW. The sndwarp page is "under construction." There is nothing there.

On 9/19/07 5:20 AM, "Alessandro Fogar" wrote:

I have reported on a similar process in MSP using play~ to do the time
stretch and gizmo~ to do the pitch shift.  It should still in the forum
somewhere.

BTW.  The sndwarp page is "under construction."  There is nothing there.

On 9/19/07 5:20 AM, "Alessandro Fogar"  wrote:

> Stefan,
>
> sndwarp is a timestretch/pitchshift granular effect, uses a buffer.
>
> I know I could use Csound~ but I prefer, also cause I have to include
> it in a poly~ a native Max/Msp external.
>
> from the csound manual
>
> (http://ecmc.rochester.edu/onlinedocs/Csound/Generate/sndwarp.html):
>
> sndwarp reads sound samples from a table and applies time-stretching
> and/or pitch modification. Time and frequency modification are
> indepentant from one another. For example, a sound can be stretched in
> time while raising the pitch! The window size and overlap arguments
> are important to the result and should be experimented with. In
> general they should be as small as possible. For example, start with
> iwsize=sr/10 and ioverlap=15. Try irandw=iwsize*.2. If you can get
> away with less overlaps, the program will be faster. But too few may
> cause an audible flutter in the amplitude. The algorithm reacts
> differently depending upon the input sound and there are no fixed
> rules for the best use in all circumstances. But with proper tuning,
> excellent results can be achieved.
>
> All the best
>
> many thanks in advance

Cheers
Gary Lee Nelson
Oberlin College
www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

many thanks but what I want to do is at the same time a pitch shift

and a time warp, I don't think you can do it with gizmo.

The sndwarp page to which I linked it the Csound manual page for sndwarp.

> I have reported on a similar process in MSP using play~ to do the time

> stretch and gizmo~ to do the pitch shift. It should still in the forum

> BTW. The sndwarp page is "under construction." There is nothing there.

> On 9/19/07 5:20 AM, "Alessandro Fogar" wrote:

> > sndwarp is a timestretch/pitchshift granular effect, uses a buffer.

> > I know I could use Csound~ but I prefer, also cause I have to include

> > it in a poly~ a native Max/Msp external.

> > sndwarp reads sound samples from a table and applies time-stretching

> > and/or pitch modification. Time and frequency modification are

> > indepentant from one another. For example, a sound can be stretched in

> > time while raising the pitch! The window size and overlap arguments

> > are important to the result and should be experimented with. In

> > general they should be as small as possible. For example, start with

> > iwsize=sr/10 and ioverlap=15. Try irandw=iwsize*.2. If you can get

> > away with less overlaps, the program will be faster. But too few may

> > cause an audible flutter in the amplitude. The algorithm reacts

> > differently depending upon the input sound and there are no fixed

> > rules for the best use in all circumstances. But with proper tuning,

many thanks but what I want to do is at the same time a pitch shift
and a time warp, I don't think you can do it with gizmo.

2007/9/19, Gary Lee Nelson :
> I have reported on a similar process in MSP using play~ to do the time
> stretch and gizmo~ to do the pitch shift.  It should still in the forum
> somewhere.
>
> BTW.  The sndwarp page is "under construction."  There is nothing there.
>
>
> On 9/19/07 5:20 AM, "Alessandro Fogar"  wrote:
>
> > Stefan,
> >
> > sndwarp is a timestretch/pitchshift granular effect, uses a buffer.
> >
> > I know I could use Csound~ but I prefer, also cause I have to include
> > it in a poly~ a native Max/Msp external.
> >
> > from the csound manual
> >
> > (http://ecmc.rochester.edu/onlinedocs/Csound/Generate/sndwarp.html):
> >
> > sndwarp reads sound samples from a table and applies time-stretching
> > and/or pitch modification. Time and frequency modification are
> > indepentant from one another. For example, a sound can be stretched in
> > time while raising the pitch! The window size and overlap arguments
> > are important to the result and should be experimented with. In
> > general they should be as small as possible. For example, start with
> > iwsize=sr/10 and ioverlap=15. Try irandw=iwsize*.2. If you can get
> > away with less overlaps, the program will be faster. But too few may
> > cause an audible flutter in the amplitude. The algorithm reacts
> > differently depending upon the input sound and there are no fixed
> > rules for the best use in all circumstances. But with proper tuning,
> > excellent results can be achieved.
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > many thanks in advance
>
>
> Cheers
> Gary Lee Nelson
> Oberlin College
> www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
>
>
>


you can create something like that using basic max objects like tapin in conjunction with gizmo, but there are also some third party externals in that field.

one of the very very few third party binaries i use is [granola~], maybe this does what you want. goee well in poly voices and benefits from upsampling.

http://ecmc.rochester.edu/onlinedocs/Csound/Generate/sndwarp.html

link from your post and it is under construction.

On 9/19/07 9:02 AM, "Alessandro Fogar" wrote:

> many thanks but what I want to do is at the same time a pitch shift

> and a time warp, I don't think you can do it with gizmo.

> The sndwarp page to which I linked it the Csound manual page for sndwarp.

http://ecmc.rochester.edu/onlinedocs/Csound/Generate/sndwarp.html is the
link from your post and it is under construction.

On 9/19/07 9:02 AM, "Alessandro Fogar"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> many thanks but what I want to do is at the same time a pitch shift
> and a time warp, I don't think you can do it with gizmo.
>
> The sndwarp page to which I linked it the Csound manual page for sndwarp.
>
> All the best

don't know why it does not open, for me it opens a page of the online

csound manual (I'm now on a pc, tried with Firefox and Internet

http://www.lakewoodsound.com/csound/hypertext/siggen/sndwarp.htm

> link from your post and it is under construction.

> On 9/19/07 9:02 AM, "Alessandro Fogar" wrote:

> > many thanks but what I want to do is at the same time a pitch shift

> > and a time warp, I don't think you can do it with gizmo.

> > The sndwarp page to which I linked it the Csound manual page for sndwarp.

don't know why it does not open, for me it opens a page of the online
csound manual (I'm now on a pc, tried with Firefox and Internet
Explorer too).

2007/9/19, Gary Lee Nelson :
> http://ecmc.rochester.edu/onlinedocs/Csound/Generate/sndwarp.html is the
> link from your post and it is under construction.
>
>
> On 9/19/07 9:02 AM, "Alessandro Fogar"  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > many thanks but what I want to do is at the same time a pitch shift
> > and a time warp, I don't think you can do it with gizmo.
> >
> > The sndwarp page to which I linked it the Csound manual page for sndwarp.
> >
> > All the best
>
>
> Cheers
> Gary Lee Nelson
> Oberlin College
> www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
>
>
>


The paren at the end of the URL gets included when you click the link in

The paren at the end of the URL gets included when you click the link in
your message.

Not on my system (MacBook Pro, OS 10.4.10, reading the messages in 

standard Mac Mail and using Safari - i.e. no problems at all with his 

On Sep 19, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Gary Lee Nelson wrote:

> The paren at the end of the URL gets included when you click the 

Not on my system (MacBook Pro, OS 10.4.10, reading the messages in  
standard Mac Mail and using Safari - i.e. no problems at all with his  
post.)

> The paren at the end of the URL gets included when you click the  
> link in
> your message.
>
>

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