Something like Soundflower for Windows?

Feb 12, 2006 at 12:18pm

Something like Soundflower for Windows?

Dear all,
I need to send audio from a VST-host application (like Ableton Live) to Max, AND viceversa.

That is because I need to process in Max the audio input from sound-card, but I also would like to use a couple of VST that work better with Ableton Live than with Max.

So I can’t use Rewire protocol (that is just “one-way”) and I can’t use Soundflower because I’m on Windows XP.

How could I resolve this issue?

Thank you very much,

Feb 12, 2006 at 4:03pm

You could have also used Jack, if you were on Mac or Linux, but alas….

You could use one of the tools that allows you to send audio over IP
(can’t remember what it’s called on PC, but it exists), and then
specify “localhost” as the receiving machine. Most of the audio over
IP tools allow you to do something like that…


Dan Nigrin
Defective Records
202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X

Feb 12, 2006 at 4:25pm

Try this :
Not free but seems reliable…

Forget anything about Virtual Audio Cable and Max. It’s a pain in the ass.



Feb 12, 2006 at 4:36pm

Save your Max Patch as a pluggo plugin, install the free Pluggo runtime, and you can use it inside Live…..


Feb 12, 2006 at 8:38pm

Pretty sad there is not an equivalent on Windows. I’ve been following the beta of Vista and on the audio side it doesn’t look quite exciting, quite sad they are not putting efforts in making audio more profesionnal on Windows :(

Feb 12, 2006 at 8:49pm
Feb 23, 2007 at 1:54am


There is Total Recorder (but not free)

Feb 23, 2007 at 2:02am

hum… sorry I answered too quickly. I believed that you wanted to record any audio sources.. I don’t know if this software can send audio on other softwares…

Feb 23, 2007 at 10:33am

As I posted yesterday…

By the way, JACK for windows isn’t just in the pipeline – there is actually a working version (jackdmp), although it’s still a bit buggy.

It’s mentioned on the main JACK page but can be found here:

Also, see this thread a KVR audio if you need help setting things up:

I have it running on my machine with no problems so far, Live sending audio to Max, sweet.

Feb 23, 2007 at 1:19pm

the s oun din vista is ok. it uses alot less recorces for my personal experience. I’m not sure exactly on the technical side of it but i heard things saying that they took the audio drivers out of the main kernal so it runs as a separate thread like on unx systems. Jack for windows would be great…i didn’t know that there was a working version out i shall try tonight if i have time. Jack on linux and max/msp work ok…i’ve had problems with using jack so i have only tryed some tests. For using max in vst windows applciations….just use pluggo the tutorials are really usful and simple to follow. Its pretty awesome

Feb 26, 2007 at 9:13am


Jul 10, 2010 at 10:23am

Virtual Audio Card

It’s free and it works on Windows XP and it creates 3 Virtual Audio Cables as Windows Sound drivers.

It comes from a software kit for a commercial TCP/IP mp3 streaming device. Go figure. Works for me in place of VAC (Virtual Audio Cable) but the latency on my machine is pretty awful. YMMV


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