spbinns

just a quick question... I have been looking at the stutter~ object, and although it performs really well, I seem to get lots of clicking and popping over my output signal, even when it is not in operation (stuttering). I have just been using the stutter~ help file but I get the clicks in this patch too.

When it is not in operation, passing audio through the object works perfectly to start with, but as soon as I change the grain size or playback speed, the clicks appear, most noticeable when the playback speed is very low ( around 0.1). Hope this makes sense...

Is this a common problem with anyone else?

stutter-clicks

It sounds like you may be having dsp performance issues. Try 

adjusting (to a larger size) the signal & i/o vectors, and make sure 

'overdrive' and 'scheduler in audio interrupt' are enabled in the 

On Jan 1, 2008, at 7:10 AM, Stuart Binns wrote:

> just a quick question... I have been looking at the stutter~ 

> object, and although it performs really well, I seem to get lots of 

> clicking and popping over my output signal, even when it is not in 

> operation (stuttering). I have just been using the stutter~ help 

> file but I get the clicks in this patch too.

> When it is not in operation, passing audio through the object works 

> perfectly to start with, but as soon as I change the grain size or 

> playback speed, the clicks appear, most noticeable when the 

> playback speed is very low ( around 0.1). Hope this makes sense...

> Is this a common problem with anyone else?

It sounds like you may be having dsp performance issues. Try  
adjusting (to a larger size) the signal & i/o vectors, and make sure  
'overdrive' and 'scheduler in audio interrupt' are enabled in the  
'dsp status' menu. See if that helps.

>
> Dear all,
>
>
> just a quick question... I have been looking at the stutter~  
> object, and although it performs really well, I seem to get lots of  
> clicking and popping over my output signal, even when it is not in  
> operation (stuttering). I have just been using the stutter~ help  
> file but I get the clicks in this patch too.
>
> When it is not in operation, passing audio through the object works  
> perfectly to start with, but as soon as I change the grain size or  
> playback speed, the clicks appear, most noticeable when the  
> playback speed is very low ( around 0.1). Hope this makes sense...
>
> Is this a common problem with anyone else?

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Unfortunately your suggestion has not helped me. I am using the stutter object help file to test but still not working correctly...

I have changed the adc~ input to be sfplay~, and I'm just playing a wav fil through it. This is then going into the stutter object. Initially, the grain size is set to 100, and the audio passes trough without any problems. Its when I change this grain size (especially a small grain size) that my original signal is getting distorted. This is all when my audio is not stuttering...

Should the audio entering the stutter object pass through unaltered when the stutter object is not stuttering?

here is the code I'm using...it would be good to know if it is just my computer being silly or if I'm doing something wrong.

If you do try the code below, could you try feeding an audio file through, then try changing the grain size, and also try the playback speed, and see if you hear any regular clicking etc when the file is not stuttering.

I have changed the adc~ input to be sfplay~, and I'm just playing a wav fil through it. This is then going into the stutter object.  Initially, the grain size is set to 100, and the audio passes trough without any problems. Its when I change this grain size (especially a small grain size) that my original signal is getting distorted. This is all when my audio is not stuttering...

Should the audio entering the stutter object pass through unaltered  when the stutter object is not stuttering?

I do get clicks when changing the grain and speed settings. I've 

never used [stutter~] before, so not sure I can be of much help at 

this point. I'm not sure if it's significant, but when I load your 

patch I get an error in the Max window: error: 'start: no such 

object. I also get the same clicking behavior on the [stutter~] help 

On Jan 1, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Stuart Binns wrote:

> Unfortunately your suggestion has not helped me. I am using the 

> stutter object help file to test but still not working correctly...

> I have changed the adc~ input to be sfplay~, and I'm just playing a 

> wav fil through it. This is then going into the stutter object. 

> Initially, the grain size is set to 100, and the audio passes 

> trough without any problems. Its when I change this grain size 

> (especially a small grain size) that my original signal is getting 

> distorted. This is all when my audio is not stuttering...

> Should the audio entering the stutter object pass through 

> unaltered when the stutter object is not stuttering?

> here is the code I'm using...it would be good to know if it is just 

> my computer being silly or if I'm doing something wrong.

> If you do try the code below, could you try feeding an audio file 

> through, then try changing the grain size, and also try the 

> playback speed, and see if you hear any regular clicking etc when 

I do get clicks when changing the grain and speed settings. I've  
never used [stutter~] before, so not sure I can be of much help at  
this point. I'm not sure if it's significant, but when I load your  
patch I get an error in the Max window: error: 'start: no such  
object. I also get the same clicking behavior on the [stutter~] help  
patch, by the way.

>
> Thanks for your repsonce -
>
> Unfortunately your suggestion has not helped me. I am using the  
> stutter object help file to test but still not working correctly...
>
> I have changed the adc~ input to be sfplay~, and I'm just playing a  
> wav fil through it. This is then going into the stutter object.   
> Initially, the grain size is set to 100, and the audio passes  
> trough without any problems. Its when I change this grain size  
> (especially a small grain size) that my original signal is getting  
> distorted. This is all when my audio is not stuttering...
>
> Should the audio entering the stutter object pass through  
> unaltered  when the stutter object is not stuttering?
>
> here is the code I'm using...it would be good to know if it is just  
> my computer being silly or if I'm doing something wrong.
>
> If you do try the code below, could you try feeding an audio file  
> through, then try changing the grain size, and also try the  
> playback speed, and see if you hear any regular clicking etc when  
> the file is not stuttering.
>
> Many Thanks....
>
>

How would you create a ramp to smooth between iterations?

Hi, from what I've read I'm not sure your problem has to do with ramps, might be dsp settings or possibly even weirdness in playing sounds at such a low speed.

But feel free to apply this "adjustable-hanning-window" i made long ago which I (probably annoyingly) love to go off about constantly to everyone on this forum:

Thanks for posting this! Solved the clicking problem wonderfully.

(Wow, from 2008?! I thought I only started forums after max5, but here I shared max4 text... How time flies...)

This reminds me, there is another share I've been planning for my "sharing is for asswipes" series: standard stutter, and 'zipper' stutter(accelerating/decelerating) made in gen~(with built-in windowing). I will get on preparing that to share in the next couple weeks, thanks for the reminder :)

sounds like it'll be a popular share, for sure! Get right on it! :)

Although you asked me to comment this patch a bit more:

https://cycling74.com/forums/sharing-is-for-asswipes-anaechowat-a-unique-delay-made-in-gen/

and then when i did so, you never said 'thank you, asswipe!'... never fear!

I merely assumed it was because you were a busy person and not because you are a 'terrible' person >;D

So i will continue to attempt delivering to your satisfaction:

https://cycling74.com/forums/sharing-is-for-asswipes-fart-noises-in-gen-aka-stutters-d/

@wetterberg
Although you asked me to comment this patch a bit more:
https://cycling74.com/forums/sharing-is-for-asswipes-anaechowat-a-unique-delay-made-in-gen/

and then when i did so, you never said 'thank you, asswipe!'... never fear!
I merely assumed it was because you were a busy person and not because you are a 'terrible' person >;D
So i will continue to attempt delivering to your satisfaction:
https://cycling74.com/forums/sharing-is-for-asswipes-fart-noises-in-gen-aka-stutters-d/


ah, but my gratitude is eternal, ever-present, and deeper than the Mariana Trench!

(also, I'm a forgetful idiot. So there's that...)

And I have a habit of becoming overwhelmed in the head whenever the work of others really challenges mah headz. I am trying to get over that.

Raja, you're awesome *points finger-guns*.

And I have a habit of becoming overwhelmed in the head whenever the work of others really challenges mah headz. I am trying to get over that.
Raja, you're awesome *points finger-guns*.


curious where the solution went here if anyone has it trying to work out this exact issue

stutter~ clicks