Tap.Tools 3.2

Oct 29, 2010 at 4:18am

Tap.Tools 3.2

Hi all,

I’ve released Tap.Tools 3.2 into the wild. The main focus for this version was smoothing things out so it all works well in Max for Live. Download is @ http://download.74objects.com/taptools/index.html .

Cheers,
Tim

#52998
Oct 29, 2010 at 6:52am

Is this any different to the recent RC1 release? Do I need to replace it?
Cheers
MM

#190595
Oct 29, 2010 at 12:50pm

The RC and the release are same.

best,
Tim

#190596
Oct 29, 2010 at 10:00pm

Intel only.
Sigh.
i spent da money, i guess us *poor* Motorola folk don’t matter anymore.
unhappy,
j2k

#190597
Oct 30, 2010 at 12:27am

Unfortunately, my PPC machine died. And you can’t get them anymore. Even used.

That probably doesn’t make you feel better, but I don’t think it’s fair to assume that you don’t “matter” anymore. Because you certainly do!

Fortunately, all of the older versions of Tap.Tools are still available, and Tap.Tools 2 (for Max 4.6) is even available for free. Hopefully than can serve some consolation…

Cheers,
Tim

#190598
Oct 30, 2010 at 1:02am

No worries, no need for another download . . .
Thanks Tim

#190599
Oct 31, 2010 at 12:21pm

hi

nice , but….. using the tap.filter~ (the help patch), switching to hilbert always crashes my max app

mac, os X 6 4, intel 2.5 core 2 duo; max 5.1.5

best

kasper

#190600
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:54pm

Hi Tim,
I love TapTools!
Is a Windows version (of 3.2) forthcoming, by chance?
Thanks.

#190601
Nov 2, 2010 at 8:46pm

Hi Tim,

What about users on 10.4.11?

I have no intention to upgrade to 10.5 or 10.6, since the combination of this machine+OS+audio drivers is very stable and reliable.

Can I expect trouble or is it just a case of “not officially supported anymore but should run fine in most cases”?

Thanks.
Klaas-Jan

#190602
Nov 3, 2010 at 12:55pm

Hi Tim,
Is a Windows version for TapTools 3.2, planned?
thanks

#190603
Nov 5, 2010 at 10:44am

@kasper Thanks for the report — I’ve fixed this for the next version.
@kjg It is quite difficult to support OS 10.4 now. The version of Xcode I have installed from Apple doesn’t even have the option of installing support for 10.4 anymore. I guess this is Apple’s way of dragging us along kicking and screaming.

#190604
Nov 5, 2010 at 10:49am

Re: Windows, there are no planned updates for Windows at this time. This was announced a few months ago @ http://twitter.com/74objects .

Cheers,
Tim

#190605
Nov 5, 2010 at 1:44pm

+1 for windows

#190606
Nov 5, 2010 at 3:56pm

too bad that there’s not win version.
the multiplatform nature of max/msp is still neglected by a lot of third party objects developers.
i understand their reasons very good.
but often i feel like a “paria” windows xp user :(

+1 for taptools 3.2 for windows

#190607
Nov 5, 2010 at 7:16pm

‘well, at least you guys have the excuse of being the ‘new kids on the block’: there are some users who have been owners of Max since before Msp, first year adopters of the original TapTools, fully paid, who are now dropped from it’s further development because of Apple’s great ability to re-invent itself. I lost my favorite DAW (Vision) when Apple first went to (the superior) OS X…now I lose TapTools because of Apple’s lovely fickleness.
i also wanted to contribute to Jamoma.
No chance now until a raise magically appears during the worst recession since the 30′s or i win the lottery. P.S. “MacBusinessSystems” here in my hometown will sell a used G5 to you for < 300$.
sigh.

#190608
Nov 6, 2010 at 12:27am

Ok, Tim. For now no TT for me then.
Thanks for explaining.

I wonder how Cycling and other companies do it? Do they hang on to an older version of XCode to maintain 10.4 compatibility?

#190609
Nov 6, 2010 at 2:19am

As the saying goes, there are lots of ways to skin a cat. Particularly in cases like this, you have lots of options as you have more resources available to you. Cycling has a lot more resources available to it than Electrotap or 74Objects have available.

In the case of Tap.Tools, those resources are extremely limited in the best of times. And, as Charlie points out, these are not the best of times.

In the case of Jamoma, it relies on volunteers — so the hard work of (backward) compatibility falls to whoever is interested in doing it for free. If anyone would like to volunteer, please do! You are certainly welcome in our family!

#190610
Nov 6, 2010 at 1:15pm

hmm. Jamoma. ok. pulled from github, but the ruby build fails looking for a file that probably exists for intel platform pulls: ./supports/jamomalib

I can run “Xcode”/gcc since it was “AppBuilder” (NeXTStep)?… or is the dsp code itself hand coded intel SSE or whatever these days?

Any ideas, Tim?
PS Tim, I admire you for working so hard for new music, when as I know too well, the demand for coders still goes on for standards industries like insurance/banking, and they’re not going anywhere. We Hope. I wish you the kind of success my old colleagues at UI CERL have had with their commercial ventures (Kyma, Continuum).
Charlie

#190611
Nov 8, 2010 at 6:51am

Hi Charles,

to check out Jamoma from git, did you follow these instructions?

http://redmine.jamoma.org/projects/jamoma/wiki/Checking_out_Jamoma_from_GIT

cheers,

N.

#190612
Nov 8, 2010 at 1:22pm

uh, yes…
after the ruby update step (which completed), I started the compile, which immediately dies on the dependency “/supports/jamomalib” (./supports/jamomalib in Builds. it is not there.)
Unless the update failed (i did little but scan the verbose output, but saw no obvious failures), the issue would (seem) to be that I am on an unsupported architecture, :), which I knew, but was hoping to work through any porting issue; this dependency is a bit much: without source to solve this dependency… I suspect that the update failed to find the jamomalib for my architecture, PPC, because it does not exist, so I do not have it. I asked if this lib was *by nature* intel only… but have not heard back about that.
Keenly interested, but I am ‘unsupported’:
I am a +50yo programmer/composer-(PhD in comp UCSB)/user of Max for 20 yrs…but until i get to buy anything other than my family’s life-support, Jamoma will have to wait… unless the missing dsplib is actually in some nice compilable language, rather than the swift and ubiquitous intel assembler… :-), he said, not having much hope.
thanks…
cfb aka j2k

#190613
Nov 11, 2010 at 3:10am

Well, I guess you found out it isn’t easy :-). If it were easy, someone else would definitely have done it… Gotta love “progress”…

Anyway, if you think it would be useful to pursue further, we discuss all things related to Jamoma over on the forum/mailing-list @ http://jamoma.org/forum.html . You’re welcome to participate there.

Someone gung-ho on Windows would also be more than welcome ;-).

#190614

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.