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tempo in detonate

September 28, 2006 | 1:02 pm

hallo,
i am trying to find out how to save recorded midi file with information about tempo trough the detonate object. is there any way how to say detonate what is the tempo of the composition so that i can after correctly open the file in other sequencer?

thank you for your help

tomas


September 28, 2006 | 3:03 pm

On 28 sept. 06, at 15:02, tomas dvorak wrote:

>
> hallo,
> i am trying to find out how to save recorded midi file with
> information about tempo trough the detonate object. is there any way
> how to say detonate what is the tempo of the composition so that i can
> after correctly open the file in other sequencer?

As far as I know you can’t save meta datas in midi files with standard
max objects. There is an external written by Peter Swinnen,
psw.midile.parser (Max only) that can read meta datas, but not write
them.

p


September 28, 2006 | 4:06 pm

Similarly, Eric Singer’s SeqPlayer object. Now available in Universal
Binary format. (Let’s just quietly mention that and see if anyone
notices.)

Again, it’s a read-only thing.

– P.

PS: Eric may want to look at the object before actually releasing the
UB version, but I ported it and it seems to work fine here.

On 28-Sep-2006, at 17:03, Patrick Delges wrote:

>
> On 28 sept. 06, at 15:02, tomas dvorak wrote:
>
>>
>> hallo,
>> i am trying to find out how to save recorded midi file with
>> information about tempo trough the detonate object. is there any
>> way how to say detonate what is the tempo of the composition so
>> that i can after correctly open the file in other sequencer?
>
> As far as I know you can’t save meta datas in midi files with
> standard max objects. There is an external written by Peter
> Swinnen, psw.midile.parser (Max only) that can read meta datas, but
> not write them.
>
> p
>

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September 28, 2006 | 4:52 pm

thank you for your reply. probably i will have to find out some other way how to solve this "problem". at the moment i am not really sure how…

t.


September 28, 2006 | 5:25 pm

On 28-sept.-06, at 18:52, tomas dvorak wrote:

>
> thank you for your reply. probably i will have to find out some other
> way how to solve this "problem". at the moment i am not really sure
> how…

The problem is that you need these datas to use them in another
software.

If you stay in Max, you could write regular MIDI datas (like
controllers or even notes – I think it’s trickier with sysex) on a MIDI
channel that you dedicate to meta-informations and interpretes these
data the way you want. For instance, 2 consecutive values for CTRL10
gives you the 14 bits for the tempo, etc.

To get these datas back in Max, you have to play the file until all
your "meta datas" are played.
Of course, these datas will look mysterious for another software.

I face the same problem as you in one of my current projects. I finally
found this trick too ugly to be seriously used, so I may code some
external one day if I have the time, but probably not before 2007…

p


September 28, 2006 | 5:30 pm


September 29, 2006 | 5:57 am

hallo!
thank you very much for your answers.

i really need to use midi out of max, and i also need to record data in real time. i should maybe shortly explain the concept of the patch i am working on.

it is livesampling loopmachine, whith more features, but one of the most important is the possibility to transfer audio into midi. purpose of this patch is not primary "audio focus" but the "score aspect". the reason that made me make this patch is that i am clarinetist and i really like to find tunes with clarinet, it is kind of most natural and easy way for me… even easier than singing .o) while working on the album i really don


September 29, 2006 | 9:10 am


September 29, 2006 | 1:35 pm


October 1, 2006 | 8:31 pm

tomas dvorak wrote:
> So i really want to use max just to generate "source midi" and after
> go to cubase or whatever to work on the song more.i want to use
> detonate object so i can see what was recorded and possibly edit it.

What about running the sequencer in parallel with your patch and record
directly into Cubase or whatever. If your patch isn’t too demanding,
this should be the most simple way…
The other advantage of it: you can record the audio at the same time and
will have a perfectly synced reference for your Midi track…

Stefan


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October 6, 2006 | 7:40 am

hi,
thank you very much for your very interesting replies on the topic.

Falk: what you wrote is very inspiring, and i am getting to the same results. still i hope it is worth to work on some kind of such audio to midi instrument (as you probably do also). first of all i would like to specialise the patch primary on the only one mono-instrument (clarinet), which seems to bring good results (with pitch~ which has more possibilities of customisation), also i like fortune (as most of the max msp user probably do) so sometimes i think the deformation of the information can be taken as creative element. there is lots of creative possibilities in this topic, what you have already mentioned.

Stefan: thanks for the hint. this seems to be also another easy option.

tomas

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