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the move to windows – jesus…

July 18, 2006 | 4:16 pm

peter castine said this might be like moving from hannover to magdeburg before the east german wall came down. feels like hannover to madras.

so, with deepest humility, a couple of questions from someone who knows nothing of windows:

1) the patch i dragged from my usb stick shows no file ending. is it not there, or do i just not see it ? if it’s not there, what should it be ? how do i get max to do it automatically on the mac ?

2) i need to create some audio stuff – where the hell is the tilde ~ on a german mac keyboard talking to windows ???

3) is rhetorical. is it worth it ?

4) is there anything else i should know ? :-)

right, i’m off to do some archive trawling.

chers,

stuart


July 18, 2006 | 5:51 pm

On 18-Jul-2006, at 18:16, Stuart Grimshaw wrote:
> 1) the patch i dragged from my usb stick shows no file ending. is
> it not there, or do i just not see it ?

It’s probably not there. To be really sure, right-click and check out
Properties.

> if it’s not there, what should it be ?

Same as on Mac: .pat or .mxb.

Just add the suffix and be done with it; easiest way to deal with
this stuff.

> how do i get max to do it automatically on the mac ?

You don’t.

I suppose this is technically a UI shortcoming in Max. OS X apps that
have true file-name-suffix-religion force the suffix on you. At
gunpoint. As a consolation, they may offer you an option to hide the
suffix, thus confusing people even more thoroughly.

> 2) i need to create some audio stuff – where the hell is the tilde
> ~ on a german mac keyboard talking to windows ???

Should be alt-126.

In general: alt-ASCII. But note that there are two different extended
"ASCII" codes for stuff beyond 127.

But, hey, tilde is one of those AltGr keystrokes. It’s even printed
on most German Windows keyboards. Stop staring at the colorful screen
and look at your key caps.

> 3) is rhetorical. is it worth it ?

If you intend to be a martyr to Bill Gates then no hardship is too
great, no suffering too intense, no sacrifice too dear. Yes, it is
worth it.

You may want to change into black leather thong underwear first.

> 4) is there anything else i should know ? :-)

Yes.

First of all, you need to know what AltGr stands for.

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July 18, 2006 | 5:58 pm

this is quite strange: i start to build an identical patch to the one i couldn’t use from the mac on a macBook running windows.

cycle~, fader,easydac~ connected as one would expect. i create an overdrive, not yet connected and 1% shows up on cpu usage, as it would on the mac mini 1.25.

but when i connect the cycle~ to it, cpu jumps to 8%, which is certainly not the case under osx.

this continues to happen while i connect a daisy chain of overdrive~s, and it is already clear that i’m not going to be able to create a patch anything like the orignal, which used anout forty overdrive~s to reach 50% cpu.

the settings under dsp status are identical – except the audio driver.

is this a result of max being ported to windows and running in its own little window etc. ? or do i need to do some more setting up of windows ?

all very confusing and fascinating…


July 18, 2006 | 6:12 pm


July 18, 2006 | 7:30 pm


July 18, 2006 | 7:34 pm

aber um die frage zu beantworten, you have to rename it
while still on the mac to make it work.


July 19, 2006 | 7:05 am

aah… the cyberzap key. seems obvious now.

and renaming before emmigrating works a treat too.

thanks you gentlemen. and vielen dank and… anyone know thanks in hindustani ?


July 19, 2006 | 8:35 am


July 19, 2006 | 2:05 pm

Quote: grimshaw@grimshaw.de wrote on Tue, 18 July 2006 10:16
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>
> 4) is there anything else i should know ? :-)

If you work in windows and then open your patch in osx, you may find that some of your graphics are messed up. The fonts in osx are bigger, while the object and comment boxes stay the same size, so from ‘this’, you’ll get somethin ‘thi
s’.
I suppose this is only an issue when designing the user interface or are worried about the look of your patches.



Nat
July 20, 2006 | 5:02 pm

On Windows XP, by default, extensions are hidden. Open an explorer window, go in "Tool", "Folder Options", "Display" and find the entry related to file type extensions.


July 20, 2006 | 10:29 pm

Just click each file and add a ".pat" or ".mxb" extention.
If all the objects you used when you made your patch on mac are combatible with windows it works.Most of the times that is the case.Also you can get the text file from a mac and open-paste it on Max on windows. Download the externals for windows if you used any.
Best
Neuromax


July 21, 2006 | 5:50 am

You could use a windows application called "properties plus" to batch append each file with its proper extension all in one go. Google for it, I use it all the time.

bInEz0R



Nat
July 21, 2006 | 6:55 am

I did a similar thing using Python. I recorded a band in a ProTools studio and took the audio files on an external disk to edit home, none of the files had extensions. I added them by writing a 4 line python script. Fun and works well.


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