Regards,

Zip

Maybe there is some small problem, as being obliged to subscribe again,
but if it is the only reason to resign from the list, then this means
that we don’t need to read this list at all no ?

Chris

b.

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> I always loved the MaxMsp community and its ‘old-fashioned’ mailing
> list. It had a very loose, cosy community feeling, while providing
> plenty of great info.
> Suddenly everything changes, I’m no longer a member, I need to
> resubscribe, can’t get a digest any longer.
> And bouncer Wally pops up, and tells me in a rather unpleasant tone
> what to to do and not to do.
> It all feels like my beloved local pub was turned into one of these
> nasty hip wine bars overnight.
> Heck, I’m seriously considering unsubscribing, this time for real.

The Max list has always had that nasty hip wine bar feel in some
ways. I blame Zicarelli for never taking his sunglasses off while
inside. It certainly isn’t helping anyway…

And yes, it is true that the new bouncer (not Wally, but mailman)
mistook you for someone else at first. Crushing, yes, but he’s been
informed and all is well now.

Wally is not so tough. He likes to play tough. He’s got the leather
jacket and slicked back hair. He types in all caps. — It’ll admit
it, I was scared at first too. However, deep down, he’s a big softy.
I saw him swerve to avoid a squirrel while following him on the road
the other day. A lesser man would’ve plowed right over it, but he had
not only the alertness to notice it, but the compassion to avoid it
as well. (The fact that he was on a bicycle may also of had something
to do with it. It has nice flame decals..) Besides, Pace is really
the guy to look out for around here. He’s really quiet and never
bothers anyone, but sometimes he flips out and punches out some guy
in the bathroom, and when he does it to you no one will believe your
story that he started it.

So inclusion: Eh. What can you do? The Max list is the Max list for
better or for worse. For richer or for much, much poorer (less so if
you’re a student, but it still hurts). If it didn’t have that hipster
stench, it just wouldn’t be the same. You know it. I know it. Drink up.

- John

> As far as I remember this used to be a pretty fancy bar already but
> was trashed by a bunch of hooligans on the day Jitter was released.

That was some time after antiorp used to regularly come in here with
the ASCII equivalent of a super soaker.

But then, I remember the list when it first started. After all, I
started it.

– N.

nick rothwell — composition, systems, performance — http://
http://www.cassiel.com

> So inclusion

Sorry — I just wanted to nominate myself for worst typo of the month.

- John

cheers
B.
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i agree that tbird’s filtering could use a bit more flexibility, but i
don’t see how it limits this job. having it put all that stuff into one
folder will keep things mostly as they were for you… the hitch being
the need to remember where to send new posts (replies should go to the
right place automatically).

now if i could just convince the author of the “correct identity”
extension to add rule-based identities i’d be all set. too many
aliases… don’t want to blow my cover. ;)

It took me around 3 minutes to subscribe to (almost all of) the other
lists and change my Thunderbird settings. (It was no pain at all)
This is fine for me, as it helps others with less broad interests than I
have to keep their inbox smaller.

Stefan

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As an oldtimer I’d just want to express my deep respect for the work you
do.
In the end, I believe, all oldtimers which are used to the digest will
learn to digest the list in a much more convenient way than they used to
do. I never understood what digests are for, but I guess there are
tricks around (which I don’t know) to make a digest digestable. I never
wanted to learn this, and I am glad I don’t have to learn them, as it
always seemed much more difficult than learning to configure my mail
filters.

Stefan

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the new system is better than the old one … but many of us still
complain … i for example.

which is the right maillinglist for jokes, general talking,
litter power pack promotion, zsolts innovation theorems, my
useful comments, or the 100 posts i got today about
“soundcard for G4″ ?

will we ban this off the new lists, or will we post these off
topic posts to “maxmsp” in the future ?

i am really happy that “java” and “dev” is out of here now,
and i think the same is true for poeple which only want to read “dev”.
but i dont get why we would have an extra group for jitter (which
usually involves max) or pluggo (which causes about 3 posts per month)

hey i think i move to forum only.

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It is better this way though, although, well I don’t know. I remember reading forums with links back in teh day. Who knows, I think it’ll all be alright in the end.

I’m not really a list old timer, so I don’t find it that hard adjusting. I find it easier to keep up on topics this way, though. Definetly. Yeah.

j

smileys are bad things…

basically its easy, post coffee house jokes to the java list, reporters
jokes to javascript all off topic to the maxmsp list (as its the most
off topic list anyway ;-)

I’d post zsolts innovation theorems to zsolt directly (with a reply-to
to the list), maybe we can get him back that way… ;-)

I guess the list which everybody reads is the maxmsp list…

Stefan

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I might not be one of the smart kids… every time I thought about it, I
couldn’t figure out a reliable way to filter out Jitter stuff without
losing Max/MSP suggestions that included a Jitter component (and these
are perfectly reasonable, often quite good). Admittedly I have not
tried any Bayesian or other ES techniques.

It’s been common to see “try methods A, B, and if you have Jitter
perhaps C”. But it seemed to me that it was the Jitter mail that was
really providing the extra bulk to the list… at least until the list
change. Now the extra bulk is discussion of the list changes.

On Jan 26, 2006, at 7:30 PM, dlurk wrote:

>
>> The smart kids on the street preferred to deal with all of these
>> issues by using mail filters, which are far more configurable than
>> a set of six or seven forums to subscribe and unsubscribe to.
>
> I might not be one of the smart kids… every time I thought about
> it, I couldn’t figure out a reliable way to filter out Jitter
> stuff without losing Max/MSP suggestions that included a Jitter
> component (and these are perfectly reasonable, often quite good).
> Admittedly I have not tried any Bayesian or other ES techniques.
>
> It’s been common to see “try methods A, B, and if you have Jitter
> perhaps C”. But it seemed to me that it was the Jitter mail that
> was really providing the extra bulk to the list… at least until
> the list change. Now the extra bulk is discussion of the list
> changes.
>

Yes, here they come. I am sorry, but the previous format was very user un-friendly, especially for those of us that are a bit timid. The new forum makes me feel more comfortable asking questions as well as responding. Not to mention the ease of navigation.

Either way, I hope that the community embraces the new format and that all of us “new people” are not too much of a burden on the group. Just my humble opinion.

-cameron

be comforatable.

ask your questions.

fuck ‘burdens’. do what you have to do.

v a d e //

http://www.vade.info
abstrakt.vade.info

erm.

james.

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> welcome.
>
> be comforatable.
>
> ask your questions.
>
> fuck ‘burdens’. do what you have to do.
>
>
> v a d e //
>
> http://www.vade.info
> abstrakt.vade.info
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:02 AM, faintember wrote:
>